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  • #16
    crufflers
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    • Jul 2011
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    Found a pic

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    • #17
      nitroxdiver
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      • Aug 2009
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      • #18
        Milsurp1
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        • #19
          Nephthys
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          I know the Elite's barrel is fitted factory, is the Expert's as well? That said, can either be bought (outside of CA of course) with a threaded barrel option? I would go with that if the option is there, otherwise, if you're looking to change out the barrel for a threaded one, I've seen many reviews say the HK45 does everything the USP does with a modern rail and other up-to-date features.

          If you're also going to be buying out of state, why not go big - Mk 23 and call it a day

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          • #20
            mikeyr
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            • Sep 2011
            • 1554

            I don't think a HK45 is on the roster. I am leaning towards a Expert again, I was going to go with the Elite only because they are available right now in stores. For those that said for me to wait until I move out, that wont be for another 2-4 years. My wife and I are 61 and only this past summer started looking for property out of state, until recently we were diehard Californians with retirement plans fully in Calif. I don't want to wait that long for the HK.
            Thanks for all the info so far, the plans have changed, going for the Expert now if I can find one and skipping the Elite and will get a HK45 with threaded barrel when I move out as my congratulations for leaving CA gun.
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            • #21
              nitroxdiver
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              • Aug 2009
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              Originally posted by mikeyr
              I don't think a HK45 is on the roster. I am leaning towards a Expert again, I was going to go with the Elite only because they are available right now in stores. For those that said for me to wait until I move out, that wont be for another 2-4 years. My wife and I are 61 and only this past summer started looking for property out of state, until recently we were diehard Californians with retirement plans fully in Calif. I don't want to wait that long for the HK.
              Thanks for all the info so far, the plans have changed, going for the Expert now if I can find one and skipping the Elite and will get a HK45 with threaded barrel when I move out as my congratulations for leaving CA gun.


              Gotcha, sorry, with the suppressor talk and threaded barrel talk and moving talk, I assumed you were on your way out. You are correct, HK45 variants are not ca roster approved. You will enjoy the expert. It is a fantastic handgun.


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              • #22
                Steve G
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                • Nov 2005
                • 1931

                Neither a Expert or a Elite but I have both. Instead I would get a MK23 hands down

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                • #23
                  castgold
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                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1531

                  I have the HK45c on my permit. It's an extremely accurate pistol in a compact package. After I shot my USP 45 Expert for the first time, I got another USP 45 Expert. The barrel length of the Expert is 132 mm, and the Elite is 153 mm. If you bought the Expert and an extra barrel for the Elite, you'd have room to cut threads on the barrel and have it stick out of the Expert for a suppressor, but the O-ring would not align properly. You'd need to cut another race at the right location for the O-ring to engage the inside of the slide in the Expert.

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                  • #24
                    Milsurp1
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                    • Aug 2016
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                    Jarvis Custom makes barrels for the HK Expert, threaded or unthreaded. O ring preinstalled.

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                    • #25
                      mikeyr
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                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1554

                      Originally posted by Preston-CLB
                      Alquist Arms in Turlock has one (1) Expert in stock right now.

                      Alquist Arms sells the best classic firearms, concealed gun holsters, Hornady ammo, and gun optics online. We also have magazines and accessories.

                      -P
                      Well they DON'T have one in stock anymore

                      Never done this before, in 40 years of buying guns, I always bought from my local LGS and of course in the old days gun shows. They are shipping it to my LGS so this was EASY.

                      Guess I will just have to buy another gun when I move out of state so I can put a suppressor on it
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                      • #26
                        teflondog
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                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4011

                        Originally posted by nitroxdiver
                        Does that streamlight move for and aft on the rail during recoil it use, or does the clamping force of the screw keep it tight enough. Thanks!


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                        One side of the clamp is really long and occupies the entire rail length so that the light does not move fore and aft during recoil.

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                        • #27
                          Preston-CLB
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                          Originally Posted by Preston-CLB
                          Alquist Arms in Turlock has one (1) Expert in stock right now.

                          Alquist Arms sells the best classic firearms, concealed gun holsters, Hornady ammo, and gun optics online. We also have magazines and accessories.

                          -P
                          Well they DON'T have one in stock anymore

                          Never done this before, in 40 years of buying guns, I always bought from my local LGS and of course in the old days gun shows. They are shipping it to my LGS so this was EASY.
                          Happy to help, and I'm glad went nicely for you. Let us know how you like it after it's served it's jail time.
                          -P
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                          • #28
                            crufflers
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 12723

                            Heckler & Koch USP Expert V1 Pistol - "The USP Expert achieves the highest levels of accuracy by combining features of the HK Tactical and Mark 23 pistols with a new slide design. The result is a USP ideally suited to IPSC (International Practical Shooting Competition) and other practical target shooting applications. Available to the competitive American shooter in three calibers, 9mm x19, .40 S&W and .45 ACP, the USP Expert is the logical choice for his or her discipline."


                            Rocklin, Stockton M'EFFER, Fairfield, Fresno have them in stock.

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                            • #29
                              nitroxdiver
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6979

                              Originally posted by teflondog
                              One side of the clamp is really long and occupies the entire rail length so that the light does not move fore and aft during recoil.





                              Anh, very good. Thanks for showing these.


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                              • #30
                                mikeyr
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1554

                                so while I am waiting for my Expert to show up...I am going to maintain this thread in the same direction it went
                                Looking at lights to fit the HK Expert. I have a TLR2 with Green laser on my SIG and I really like it, but its the high intensity version and its really freaking bright. I really like that idea because I believe that being so bright it might give me that .2 or .3 of a second advantage over a perp in SD situation, he will be blinded by the light for a super short time. But I am reading where too bright might also mess me up.
                                I see the TLR3 up above, its only 125 or 150 lumens compared to the 800 in the SIG and also no laser. I like that it fits with no adapter however.
                                What are peoples thoughts on lower lumen lights vs. high lumens in a dark home at night. Also the TLR3 does not have a laser and I personally hope that a laser would get me on target quicker, again looking for that few tenths of a second advantage.
                                Should I get a adapter for the HK and another TLR2 high intensity with green laser ? I do like the strobe idea that it has but realize in real life, likely would never use it. Thinking about the TLR3 above to avoid a adapter. Gun has not yet been shipped to my FFL so I have 2 weeks to think about this...Alquist arms says their shipper is out sick, they have the FFL and are ready to ship but no one to do the shipping so its adding to my 10 day wait in gun jail
                                Last edited by mikeyr; 11-16-2018, 11:07 AM.
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