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  • Afterimage
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 607

    Intra-Familial Transfer Question

    Short story, long.

    My grandfather purchased a S&W 686-4 .357 Mag revolver in 1998. He passed away in 2002 and my father took possession of the firearm. He never transferred the weapon over into his name.

    A couple of weeks ago he came over to my house and said, "Your grandfather wanted you to have this," and handed the revolver over to me.

    So, the firearm is still registered under my grandfather's name even though he's been dead for 16 years.

    Will this require me to jump through any extra hoops, or can I just fill out the registration form, pay the $20 fee, etc., in a normal fashion?
  • #2
    OCEquestrian
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 6905

    What revolver?
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    • #3
      mlevans66
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2009
      • 9516

      Reg fee and pay $20.
      The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
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        • Oct 2005
        • 44680

        Father to child and grandfather to grandchild are both legal for intrafamilial. File the OPLAW or file through CRIS https://cfars.doj.ca.gov/login.do, you're done.
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        • #5
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15047

          You beat me to the punch.

          OP, here's your answer.
          Originally posted by Librarian
          Father to child and grandfather to grandchild are both legal for intrafamilial. File the OPLAW or file through CRIS https://cfars.doj.ca.gov/login.do, you're done.
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          Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

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          • #6
            onelonehorseman
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 4888

            Enjoy your pre-lock 686-4 OP!
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            • #7
              Afterimage
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 607

              Originally posted by OCEquestrian
              What revolver?
              I seriously considered this route but do not want to take the chance of losing what is going to be a family heirloom.
              Originally posted by mlevans66
              Reg fee and pay $20.
              Originally posted by Librarian
              Father to child and grandfather to grandchild are both legal for intrafamilial. File the OPLAW or file through CRIS https://cfars.doj.ca.gov/login.do, you're done.
              Thanks for the replies. So the 16 year gap won't go against me?

              Originally posted by onelonehorseman
              Enjoy your pre-lock 686-4 OP!
              Thanks! Yeah, that's the first thing I noticed. Pre-lock! Me likey.

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              • #8
                NorCalBusa
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 1497

                Good info- thanks.

                Similar deal; my brother (#1) passed away 4 years ago and left his (store bought new in the prior 5 years) safe-queen AR to my other brother (#2). No paperwork ever done regarding the rifle at the time.

                Fast forward to now- how does #2 go about registering it?
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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  Originally posted by NorCalBusa
                  Good info- thanks.

                  Similar deal; my brother (#1) passed away 4 years ago and left his (store bought new in the prior 5 years) safe-queen AR to my other brother (#2). No paperwork ever done regarding the rifle at the time.

                  Fast forward to now- how does #2 go about registering it?
                  Because the parties involved are sibilings, they are not considered "immediate family members" for the purpose of CA firearm laws.

                  Any transfer between CA resident siblings must be done through a CA FFL dealer.

                  Brother #1 estate (surviving spouse) can transfer (PPT) the firearm to brother #2.

                  The firearm needs to be CA legal and can not include any large capacity magazines.
                  ^If the semi-auto AR style firearm has a "bullet button" style magazine lock, then it is considered an assault weapon and needs to be modified into a non-assault weapon prior to being transferred.
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                  • #10
                    NorCalBusa
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1497

                    Originally posted by Quiet
                    Because the parties involved are sibilings, they are not considered "immediate family members" for the purpose of CA firearm laws.

                    Any transfer between CA resident siblings must be done through a CA FFL dealer.

                    Brother #1 estate (surviving spouse) can transfer (PPT) the firearm to brother #2.

                    The firearm needs to be CA legal and can not include any large capacity magazines.
                    ^If the semi-auto AR style firearm has a "bullet button" style magazine lock, then it is considered an assault weapon and needs to be modified into a non-assault weapon prior to being transferred.
                    Thanks. So the executor does the transfer, through an FFL? Sounds straight forward, appreciate it.
                    Last edited by NorCalBusa; 06-20-2018, 6:58 AM.
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                    • #11
                      raycm2
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 150

                      Was it specifically mentioned in brother #1's will? If so, I think #2 could just file an oplaw for the transfer. #2 would need to consult a lawyer to be certain.
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                      • #12
                        Librarian
                        Admin and Poltergeist
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 44680

                        Originally posted by raycm2
                        Was it specifically mentioned in brother #1's will? If so, I think #2 could just file an oplaw for the transfer. #2 would need to consult a lawyer to be certain.
                        No, CA law requires an FFL unless the inheritance is 'immediate family' - parent/child or grandparent/grandchild.

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                        Last edited by Librarian; 06-20-2018, 3:10 PM.
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                        • #13
                          NorCalBusa
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1497

                          Originally posted by raycm2
                          Was it specifically mentioned in brother #1's will? If so, I think #2 could just file an oplaw for the transfer. #2 would need to consult a lawyer to be certain.
                          It wasn't mentioned- but thanks for the input.
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