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  • #46
    hermosabeach
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    • Feb 2009
    • 19720

    I disagree. I prefer .40 to .45
    .40 in a glock is more comfortable to shoot for me than .45 in a 1911
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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    • #47
      Fiveohmike
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 1047

      Most semi-auto handguns have very little "recoil" imho. I hope thats about to change with the Glock 40 and 29 I just picked up. 10mm seems like a prime round for reloading and having a good time with.

      Myself, as a recoil junkie, when I need a fix I take out the .500 S&W Mag with 350g H110 hotloads. 3ft fireball and kicks like a mule

      P.S. Yes I know shooting magnums breaks your recoil-o-meter lol
      -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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      • #48
        someoneeasy
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2372

        Originally posted by Barang
        Nah! 22 & 9 are for wimps!
        but modern bullet technology.....

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        • #49
          meno377
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          • Jul 2013
          • 4911

          Originally posted by jimmykan
          ...Glock subcompacts are no fun either, the 26 in 9mm is okay, but I also shot the 27 and 36. Hated them.
          Interesting.... The g30 for me feels very comfortable yet the g21 doesn't feel quite the same.
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          • #50
            Deedle
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            • Jan 2018
            • 1146

            I'm not really sensitive to recoil I guess, I've only shot one semi that I felt had noticeable recoil, a tiny Keltec that was chambered in 40 S&W. If you're familiar with the old P11, this was the P11 modified to shoot 40, and it was quite small and the grip is a bit squared off. It was slightly unpleasant to shoot.


            The worst recoiling pistol I've ever shot is my S&W 360PD, but I expected that when I bought an 11 ounce 357.
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            • #51
              smak28
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              • Jan 2013
              • 4120

              Originally posted by crufflers
              HEY GREAT. How do I know? You are just some Doude on the Internets talking about recoil stud with a 3 pound 10mm SHORT to me.
              I've edited the original post...hopefully that'll help clarify
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              • #52
                crufflers
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                • Jul 2011
                • 12723

                Originally posted by smak28
                dit: I mainly shoot .40s for probably the last 7 years and is my caliber of choice vs. 9mm & .45. The point of this thread is the recoil difference between having a .40 & .45 of the SAME pistol & SAME type of ammo.
                I have liked .40's since I first bought my CZ40B after only having a Ruger P95 DC 9mm. The CZ was always nice to shoot, super accurate, and controllable with the rubber grip panels similar to 1911 panels and grip angle. Didn't like a Glock 27 when I shot is back then, but like my Glock 22's. So I like the bigger pistols in .40.

                One thing I notice is that I need more grip texture on the .40's... RTF2 is great and TALON's are great for no slipping. YMMV.

                As far as 9mm I have no issues with a standard Gen3 frame (no RTF or Talons) even on a G26... just death grip/squeeze hard and there's no issues. Really love the G26.

                Have a couple 5-shot revolvers... 9mm and a .357 mag. Both are nice to shoot, but the .357 mag is much more pleasant with .38+P rather than full house .357 mag... which can be pretty violent and scary/disorienting for new shooters.

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                • #53
                  smak28
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 4120

                  Originally posted by crufflers
                  One thing I notice is that I need more grip texture on the .40's... RTF2 is great and TALON's are great for no slipping. YMMV.

                  Have a couple 5-shot revolvers... 9mm and a .357 mag. Both are nice to shoot, but the .357 mag is much more pleasant with .38+P rather than full house .357 mag... which can be pretty violent and scary/disorienting for new shooters.
                  Agreed on the grip texture. Both my M&P40s have the Talon rubber grips that really helped with the slipping.

                  I've actually never shot. 38+P in my .357 revolvers. I've gotten rid of my .38 special FMJ ammo because I prefer shooting .357 ammo out of them. I'll check out some .38+P ammo. Thanks!
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                  • #54
                    crufflers
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                    • Jul 2011
                    • 12723

                    Originally posted by smak28
                    Agreed on the grip texture. Both my M&P40s have the Talon rubber grips that really helped with the slipping.

                    I've actually never shot. 38+P in my .357 revolvers. I've gotten rid of my .38 special FMJ ammo because I prefer shooting .357 ammo out of them. I'll check out some .38+P ammo. Thanks!
                    I used to get this Win White Box stuff called "Personal Protection +P" from Walmart that was loaded up and cheap... was a LNHP if I recall correctly, partially jacketed... they were fun to shoot and didn't cause a huge flash. Mostly it was about ammo cost.

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                    • #55
                      smak28
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4120

                      Alright guys...there was a flaw in my post that resulted in a much exaggerated recoil in my .40 vs. my .45. I also have the same pistol in 9mm and the recoil spring weight in the 9mm is 12lbs and the .40 is supposed to be 16lbs, but I compared the recoil spring tension between my 9mm and .40 and the .40 recoil spring tension is much lighter than the 9mm recoil spring. In other words when I shot the .40 and .45, the .40 recoil was much harder than it actually should be due to the light recoil spring tension, which explains why the .45 felt like shooting a 9mm. I ordered a 16lb recoil spring to replace the worn down one in my .40, so the recoil shouldn't be as hard as it is currently. This nullifies my post and apologize. My bad. Be gentle guys...
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                      • #56
                        crufflers
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 12723

                        Originally posted by smak28
                        Alright guys...there was a flaw in my post that resulted in a much exaggerated recoil in my .40 vs. my .45. I also have the same pistol in 9mm and the recoil spring weight in the 9mm is 12lbs and the .40 is supposed to be 16lbs, but I compared the recoil spring tension between my 9mm and .40 and the .40 recoil spring tension is much lighter than the 9mm recoil spring. In other words when I shot the .40 and .45, the .40 recoil was much harder than it actually should be due to the light recoil spring tension, which explains why the .45 felt like shooting a 9mm. I ordered a 16lb recoil spring to replace the worn down one in my .40, so the recoil shouldn't be as hard as it is currently. This nullifies my post and apologize. My bad. Be gentle guys...
                        When I used to shoot a G22 with a 40-9 conversion barrel I used a steel 13 pounder...

                        I want to try a 20 or 21 in my 10mm's... probably try one in my 29SF first.

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                        • #57
                          BonnieB
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1969

                          I notice that recoil is a lot like weight lifting. If you've been shooting a lot lately, you barely notice recoil. If you haven't been shooting in a while, your hands get "out of shape" and recoil feels like a kicking mule, regardless of the gun or ammo.

                          I was sick for a while, couldn't shoot for several months. When I went back to the range, guns I thought were light and low recoil were kicking my butt. It took several weeks of regular practice to get back in the groove.

                          That said, recoil is always a function of the weight of the gun and the ammo. And perception. One person's mule-kick is another persons little jolt.
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                          • #58
                            smak28
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                            • Jan 2013
                            • 4120

                            Originally posted by crufflers
                            When I used to shoot a G22 with a 40-9 conversion barrel I used a steel 13 pounder...

                            I want to try a 20 or 21 in my 10mm's... probably try one in my 29SF first.
                            I do admit it was punishing shooting my Glock 20 (Gen 2) 10mm, because my small hands couldn't grip the massive frame well enough. I'm planning to have it sent out for a grip reduction and hopefully that will allow me to have a much better grip.
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                            • #59
                              crufflers
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                              • Jul 2011
                              • 12723

                              Originally posted by smak28
                              I do admit it was punishing shooting my Glock 20 (Gen 2) 10mm, because my small hands couldn't grip the massive frame well enough. I'm planning to have it sent out for a grip reduction and hopefully that will allow me to have a much better grip.
                              I like the G20/21/41/40 frame with a beavertail installed.

                              I didn't really go nuts stocking up on 10mm last year, but local supplies seem better than expected.

                              I got about 500 rounds of S&B range ammo, and still have 350 rounds or so of Underwood... 155 grain, and 180 grain IIRC... and some Hornady Custom, Critical Defense, Critical Duty... 175 grain Cabela's load, and 180 grain.

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                              • #60
                                igorts
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                                • Jan 2007
                                • 1562

                                Originally posted by Blade Gunner
                                Try a Glock 29 with some Underwood in it.
                                3-4 rounds with real 10mm load usually are enough for my friends to put G29 down.
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