CA ccw question

[sigman79]

If you are a current leo and have statewide carry authority but you want to obtain a ccw for Los Angeles county, will they issue you one? Just curious because you can already carry legally but may want to carry on another credential. Does anyone know if the County will respect your le status and issue you the permit? Thanks.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

If you're active LEO, why would you want a CCW? Seems redundant to me.

[sigman79]

Carry my weapon of choice, and also carry on state credentials so if a situation occurs it does not reflect on the ccw credentials from my agency.

[BobB35]

if you are a PC 830/835 LEO you do not need a CCW, just your badge/ID. If you have something else, I'm not sure.

If you can carry statewide, I would say carry and if the LAPD or LASO hooks you up, you win the lottery for false arrest and imprisonment. Retirement to free America.

[sigman79]

The agency only allows my duty weapon to be carried off duty. I'd like to carry my own weapon and also on another credential so it does not affect my job.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Ah, ok that explains a lot. Weird though, your agency doesn't allow you to carry BUGs?

[car15]

My brother I think got his thru La county ? I remember he said one place was impossible and the other was easy. He also had to carry his duty gun with an assigned off duty holster which sucked. Also he was required to carry handcuffs .
BTW he had to take a ccw class

[J-cat]

The agency only allows my duty weapon to be carried off duty. I'd like to carry my own weapon and also on another credential so it does not affect my job.

Federal law supercedes your department policy. You can carry any non-machinegun/ non-grenade anywhere you want as long as you qualify with it.

[Jonathan Doe]

If you are LEO, you can carry anywhere in the US. I will be flying to Miami this May with my pistol with a letter.

[NiteQwill]

Federal law supercedes your department policy. You can carry any non-machinegun/ non-grenade anywhere you want as long as you qualify with it.

Some agencies require their officers to carry weapons off-duty only if they are qualified with it and/or authorized to (an example is OC Sheriffs). If an officers gets into an off-duty shooting, and is carrying a gun s/he was not authorized to, it's their a** on the line.

[solanoshooter]

Carry my weapon of choice, and also carry on state credentials so if a situation occurs it does not reflect on the ccw credentials from my agency.

You are pretty naive if you think that your agency won't have a problem with you violating policy simply because because you have a CCW.

If a situation occurs, your *** will be in a sling with your agency either way if you are in violation. Especially if you do anything during the situation that is deemed a police action.

[sigman79]

I guess know one here can answer my question. Instead you just speculate on why.

[NiteQwill]

I guess know one here can answer my question. Instead you just speculate on why.

No one can answer your question because, frankly, no one has ever done it. If your a LEO, there is no need to have a CCW, and even if you did apply for one, I'll place sure bets that the LASD will contact your agency and ask why their officer is asking for a CCW.

You chose to be a LEO, that means upholding the law AND following your agency's policy. I thought "honesty and integrity" were somewhere at the top of law enforcement's creed/motto.

[J-cat]

Some agencies require their officers to carry weapons off-duty only if they are qualified with it and/or authorized to (an example is OC Sheriffs). If an officers gets into an off-duty shooting, and is carrying a gun s/he was not authorized to, it's their a** on the line.

I understand that, however department policy cannot regulate your behavior off duty unless it is unbecoming of a peace officer. Since Federal law makes it perfectly legal for cops to carry off duty anywhere they want, their employers have nothing to say about it.

It is like driving a red Chevy. Your department cannot prohibit you from driving a red Chevy. Likewise, your department cannot prohibit you from doing something that is legislatively encouraged, i.e. carrying a gun.

[unusedusername]

I understand that, however department policy cannot regulate your behavior off duty unless it is unbecoming of a peace officer. Since Federal law makes it perfectly legal for cops to carry off duty anywhere they want, their employers have nothing to say about it.

It is like driving a red Chevy. Your department cannot prohibit you from driving a red Chevy. Likewise, your department cannot prohibit you from doing something that is legislatively encouraged, i.e. carrying a gun.

Perhaps they cannot legally fire you for carrying a different firearm when off-duty, but the can fire you for it anyways and make you sue them for wrongful termination.

That would be a big nasty bag of works, and might be easier to simply avoid in the first place.