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  • #16
    mycool
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 8

    Thank you for the replies. I cleaned it after range day, which was a pain because of how tight the barrel bushing was. Planning to take it to the range again before sending it out to SA if the problem continues

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    • #17
      Litespeeds
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 3260

      Originally posted by mycool
      Straight out of the box. I used Winchester 230 grain range fodder.
      You shot around 50 rounds of this Winchester ammo and the front of your brand new SA Pro looked like that?

      Maybe try some different ammo too.

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      • #18
        Mute
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 8442

        Where do you live? Maybe one of the local calgunners who are familiar with 1911s can have a once over to make sure everything is ok or if something seems off.
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        • #19
          redhemi
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2798

          Originally posted by Litespeeds
          You shot around 50 rounds of this Winchester ammo and the front of your brand new SA Pro looked like that?

          Maybe try some different ammo too.

          That's why I don't use Winchester I have found it to be very dirty.

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          • #20
            Kokopelli
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 3380

            Send it to Springfield. They have a lifetime warranty and excellent customer service.

            I sent my 1911A1 loaded to them and they paid the shipping both ways. I got a new barrel and a trigger job for free. Fast turn around, too. Be sure to include a magazine and a fired case.
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            • #21
              MosinVirus
              Happily Infected
              CGN Contributor
              • Sep 2013
              • 5282

              Originally posted by mycool
              Thank you for the replies. I cleaned it after range day, which was a pain because of how tight the barrel bushing was. Planning to take it to the range again before sending it out to SA if the problem continues
              From your previous posts it seems you are familiar with 1911 guns. When cleaning did you notice anything out of the ordinary? Any wear that got through the finish?
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              • #22
                L-2
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1328

                Originally posted by mycool
                ...

                What surprised me was the malfunctioning when I took it to the range. The problem got progressively worse. At first everything was fine, two magazines later, the slide refused to lock on an empty mag. This happened to both the magazines that came with the gun and a Tripp Cobra mag. 2 to 3 mags later, the gun began stove piping the last round. This keep happening until around 50 rounds. Then failure to eject combined with the hammer not dropping when I pull the trigger, or the hammer falling to half cock. This FTE and hammer not dropping or just to half cock happened consistently with every magazine I fed the gun (both OEM and Tripp) and now not only on the last round. It happened enough to have me feel that the gun was unsafe to shoot and abort the shooting session.

                Is this expected for "hard fit" handguns (SACS, Les Baer,..etc). This is my first semi custom gun. I've had STI/Caspian, Para-Ord, Glock, SIGs in the past and not one malfunctioned like this.

                Should I just try to shoot more rounds into the gun to "break" it in or is this NOT typical behavior for this type of gun. A bit disconcerting for a gun to behave like this when it was said to go through a "total reliability tune" per SACS.

                Anyone has a similar experience?
                -The Pro not locking on empty mags may have been the lack of lubrication and the slide not fully cycling back.
                -The statement "both the magazines that came with the gun" was misleading, hence it's understandable for a reader to find the post "fishy", as a new Pro does come with six mags.
                -FTEj; hammer not dropping; hammer to half-cock; all these may really descriptions of the gun not fully cycling. The attached photos seem to indicate a spent casing not being kicked loose by the ejector and could be another symptom of the slide not fully cycling back.

                It could also indicate an extractor which is too tight, but I'll still suspect lack of enough lube right now.
                -This not being one's first semiauto is noted.

                I recommend a variety of brand-new ammo. I don't know what was meant by "Winchester 230 grain range fodder".
                Clean and lubricate the gun. You'll probably need to lubricate more than what you're used to doing (for now). Gun oil is fine, but do bring more with you to the range (for now).
                Yes, there is some break-in which may only take the previously stated 50-100 rounds. It'll likely take more rounds before you can use less lubrication, but I've never paid attention to how many more rounds that'll likely be.

                You can call Springfield-Armory, but there's not much they can do except have you ship the gun back; they'll clean, lube, and test-fire it; maybe or maybe not find anything wrong; then ship it back. Of course they'll repair anything necessary but so far in this thread, we can't tell anything's actually wrong or broken.
                (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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                • #23
                  mlevans66
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 9516

                  You can take a Rock Island to a Wilson out the box and shoot it without the issues OP is talking about. If you have to pay money to buy a single part you are wrong. Send that back. Break in is one thing. Having issues like OP is another. Has anyone else tried to shoot it? I'm not going to question your grip but if someone else shoots it and has problems send that that to SF.
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                  The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
                  I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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                  • #24
                    samrob77
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 1432

                    It's most likely your grip. I had two friends shoot my Wilson and the casing would get stuck maybe one in every 2-3 magazines. Never happened to me once and I never had a problem with that pistol. Just figured it was them and didn't worry about it.
                    Clean, lube and try again and have someone else shoot it too.

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                    • #25
                      Illumi Naughty
                      Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 365

                      The half dozen SA PRO's I've handled all have that insane slide lockup where you have to smack it to open it. But I've always noticed Winchester White Box Range ammo to shoot really dirty and occasionally underpowered . It's the only factory ammo that has given me grief in the past.

                      Clean that pistol, oil it, go get some Federal range ammo, and put a bunch of lead down range.

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                      • #26
                        Rogue2215
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 110

                        I would say like others clean and lube it and try again. Out of the box and only about 50 rounds of one brand is not enough. "Hammer not dropping" now that is another issue. Clean and function check it with snap caps. Still issues, sent it back to SA.

                        I had another tight tolerance Springfield with every imaginable malfunction known (seriously). After 300+ rounds (per SA recommended) I had to send the pistol back. Came back 90% better (but still not 100%)

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                        • #27
                          robert101
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1997

                          Yea, I agree with the clean it, lube it, get some good quality ammo, and shoot it. I would rack the slide a couple of hundred times at home and make sure the slide moves well. Lube that barrel busing really good. I would not use grease on a tight gun, get some 30 weight Mobil 1 synthetic for the start.

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                          • #28
                            G. Freeman
                            Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 413

                            Need good lube. Also, you may need to adjust the trigger adjustment counter-clockwise in order to add more pre-travel. Good luck.

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                            • #29
                              MosinVirus
                              Happily Infected
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 5282

                              Originally posted by G. Freeman
                              Need good lube. Also, you may need to adjust the trigger adjustment counter-clockwise in order to add more pre-travel. Good luck.
                              Overtravel?
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                              • #30
                                JS41989
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 1157

                                I didn't have a single malfunction when I got mine. Right out of the box put 200 rounds through without issues.

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