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  • #31
    I Swan
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8770

    Originally posted by grim1U
    Nah, I totally get it man. Tired of low ball offers, then asking me to drive an additional 50 miles so We can do the trade close to them even after I specified I would not travel farther than a certain point in the listing.

    I have ended up giving items I have pulled from listing to friends. It's not about the money as I generally don't need it, but being rude or disrespectful is a big no no for me.
    This sums it up well also. Another factor is I'd rather consign a gun sometimes and let an auction house deal with the nonsense than have to deal with mall ninjas, flakes, broke dreamers, lowballers, and then go through a most likely lengthy PPT process with some loser gun shop clerk scowling at me for doing a PPT and making up rules as they go.

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    • #32
      I Swan
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 8770

      Originally posted by nedro
      That maybe how you feel, but you would never throw it away. I laugh at people who think what you said.
      I was in Europe a few decades ago with My Father at an outside bazaar looking at some throw rugs (the nice hand made ones).
      So we deal and it got heated to where the seller said he would rather burn it for less than what we were offering. So we offered more than he just spewed out and told him to burn it in front of us. Kept yelling at this fool till we finally just started laughing at him as we walked away, telling him that if he changed his mine let us know. We'd like to see it burned!
      I actually came close to doing this years ago with a gun related item on an auction site years ago. It was not an overly expensive item but the potential buyer was being a real penis. I was very close to just sending him the item ripped up in pieces for free.

      I figured I didn't want the negative feedback and why lose money over some social reject loser. He was insisting how I "had to" sell him the item. Guess how that turned out for him.

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      • #33
        Mr.Caketown
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2011
        • 7362

        Its usually when people are asking a ridiculous price and they dont get it. They then write than in the listing so new forum CG members dont hit them up 2 years later during a scare to ask them if they still have it.
        WTB:
        1)AR15 Aero Precision Skeletonized Lower
        2)S&W 686 6in barrel ...686 No dash through 686-4
        3) Saltworks M5 upper/lower set

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        • #34
          I Swan
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 8770

          I have put in caps in two different places in my sale posts SOLD AT FULL ASKING PRICE and still get PM's asking if item is still for sale. How do these people function in life and not get hurt?

          I don't do panic pricing or "gouging" especially on common items like lowers or 22lr ammo but I'll be damned if I'm going to give away off roster desirable handguns.

          I had to jump through hoops and go to extraordinary measures to acquire them in many cases so why would I want to sell for less than normal just for a CGN flipper illegally acting like a FFL to profiteer off me?

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          • #35
            GM4spd
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 5682

            Originally posted by drkphibr
            I see this term often to me it doesn't make any sense.
            Correct,this is CG where most everything falls in this category.

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            • #36
              Paperchasin
              YOU are next!!
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2010
              • 6407

              Please move this to OT
              Feedback: https://imgur.com/a/mkdPdnQ

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              • #37
                GlockN'Roll
                Veteran Member
                • May 2015
                • 3733

                Originally posted by drkphibr
                I see this term often in the classifieds section.

                Whether used as a threat or promise to help a sale, to me it doesn't make any sense.

                My first thought is, where is the gun now?

                Probably in your safe. So if it doesn't sell, it's going back to where it is now? "No longer going to be for sale" sounds a bit more logical to me.

                Kind of like "final price drop".
                "Final" isn't motivational to me, it only informs me that the price was too high in the first place and you're now listing what you'd actually take to sell it...and even then that doesn't mean it will sell.

                Market is what the market is.


                Then there is the other end of the spectrum where the for sale price is seemingly too low to be real...

                and once you PM the seller their response indicates that you're "in line"...

                which most likely means they are filtering for whomever will pay the most.
                The auction without being an auction approach.
                Back in the safe means...
                • I paid too much and wanted you to rescue me
                • I wanted to cash in on a perceived change in market value, which didn't exist
                • I am emotionally attached to the gun and no one want to pay a premium for that attachment
                • I want more than current retail value and no one will pay it.
                • I think my used gun somehow deserves a new gun price
                • I spent a lot on accessories (holsters, mags, etc.) for my gun and now I want someone to dig me out of a financial hole.
                • My gun is old/out of production/limited production (limited demand)/off-roster/a family "heirloom"/like new because I don't like shooting it
                • I don't understand simple supply and demand
                • Even after a year of endless bumps/reductions, no one is making a serious offer
                • I think people actually care what is in my safe
                • I am angry that the world doesn't share my view of things, "people who don't buy my gun are flakes"
                • My "custom" gun is an abortion of ugly changes (do it yourself stippling) and faddish "upgrades" that cost me a lot and yet lowered the value of the gun
                • I paid a big premium for the current must have gun (Gen 4 Glocks) which is no longer the latest and greatest (Gen 5)






                Real Californian...

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                • #38
                  Win231
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 2099

                  Originally posted by GlockN'Roll
                  Back in the safe means...
                  • I paid too much and wanted you to rescue me
                  • I wanted to cash in on a perceived change in market value, which didn't exist
                  • I am emotionally attached to the gun and no one want to pay a premium for that attachment
                  • I want more than current retail value and no one will pay it.
                  • I think my used gun somehow deserves a new gun price
                  • I spent a lot on accessories (holsters, mags, etc.) for my gun and now I want someone to dig me out of a financial hole.
                  • My gun is old/out of production/limited production (limited demand)/off-roster/a family "heirloom"/like new because I don't like shooting it
                  • I don't understand simple supply and demand
                  • Even after a year of endless bumps/reductions, no one is making a serious offer
                  • I think people actually care what is in my safe
                  • I am angry that the world doesn't share my view of things, "people who don't buy my gun are flakes"
                  • My "custom" gun is an abortion of ugly changes (do it yourself stippling) and faddish "upgrades" that cost me a lot and yet lowered the value of the gun
                  • I paid a big premium for the current must have gun (Gen 4 Glocks) which is no longer the latest and greatest (Gen 5)






                  Pretty much sums it up. Reminds me of those stupid ads for home & car warranty policies; some guy is standing next to a clothes dryer that's not working or he's standing next to his car that broke down. "This will happen to you if you don't buy our insurance policy."

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                  • #39
                    Che762x39
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4538

                    Between 'buyers remorse' and 'sellers remorse'. I'll have a caphe sua da you can't go wrong with coffee.

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                    • #40
                      Calif Hunter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 3295

                      Several things come to mind here -

                      1. You list a firearm price higher because you know you will be offered less and/or are optimistic that the demand is high. (And why you may include "OBO")
                      2. You lower the price when it doesn't sell. Also to bring renewed attention to your ad.
                      3. "Back to the safe" - You let any people who may be waiting to see how low you will go know that you have reached that point. It may not be the best phrase, but it makes the point. Me - I would just let the ad die with a mention that I will just keep it.

                      As a seller living in the high desert, I only have to make a trip to the dealer once while the buyer has to go twice. I will usually put in an ad that I will drive an hour or so for that reason. I want to sell the gun, so why not make it easier for someone to buy it?

                      Freedom of speech - ain't it wonderful we don't all have to talk alike?
                      Last edited by Calif Hunter; 11-16-2017, 9:54 AM.

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                      • #41
                        I Swan
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 8770

                        Originally posted by GlockN'Roll
                        Back in the safe means...
                        • I paid too much and wanted you to rescue me
                        • I wanted to cash in on a perceived change in market value, which didn't exist
                        • I am emotionally attached to the gun and no one want to pay a premium for that attachment
                        • I want more than current retail value and no one will pay it.
                        • I think my used gun somehow deserves a new gun price
                        • I spent a lot on accessories (holsters, mags, etc.) for my gun and now I want someone to dig me out of a financial hole.
                        • My gun is old/out of production/limited production (limited demand)/off-roster/a family "heirloom"/like new because I don't like shooting it
                        • I don't understand simple supply and demand
                        • Even after a year of endless bumps/reductions, no one is making a serious offer
                        • I think people actually care what is in my safe
                        • I am angry that the world doesn't share my view of things, "people who don't buy my gun are flakes"
                        • My "custom" gun is an abortion of ugly changes (do it yourself stippling) and faddish "upgrades" that cost me a lot and yet lowered the value of the gun
                        • I paid a big premium for the current must have gun (Gen 4 Glocks) which is no longer the latest and greatest (Gen 5)






                        I actually emailed that to a few people. I do actually only consider people flakes though if they commit to buying something and don't follow through. This happened to me 2x on my latest sales posts.

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