Need 1911 help

[aye_dre]

Update Oct. 1st
Just came back from the range and can report that out of 250 rounds the stove pipe issue has been resolved by using factory (Federal & remington) 115g and Freedomunitions New 124g. I also used Wilson Combat ETM magazines I just purchased. But out of the 250 rounds, I did experience that my slide did not lock back after firing the last round total of 5 times:

1st time was using Mecgar 10 rounder the pistol came with and 115g federal ammo
2nd time was with Wilson mag using federal 115g
3rd time was with Mecgar freedom 124g
4th time was with Wilson freedom 124g
5th time was with Wilson Remington 115g.

So can happen with a combination of ammo and magazines through the day. Any ideas on how why this is happening? I purchased new mags to hopefully resolve this issue.


Just bought a 1911 chambered in 9mm and took it out to the range last night. It gave me some trouble. On the first round it would fire but the shell would get stuck causing the gun not cycle to properly. It did this multiple times through the night. Also on the last round the slide would not lock back. Any ideas on why this is happening? Ammo used was New 115g Freedommunitions. My CZ had no problems with this ammo.

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[toonmeister]

Needs stronger ammo, probably.

[CifaldiPrecision]

Need 1911 help

Hard to say without seeing the gun what it is exactly but possible causes. Extractor issue (tension, length, clocking, etc.), possible issue with ejector or a number of other things could cause it. A 1911 smith can fix the issue and make it completely reliable with all type of ammo.

I'd be curious to see how much tension the extractor has, most factory extractors have little to no tension.


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[JTROKS]

I'm betting that ammo does not have enough pressure to reliably cycle the action of a brand new 1911. Buy some factory 124 grain Rem, Win, Fed or PMC.

Check your extractor for proper tension. I'm thinking the ejector is fine but see if it's broken.

Run it wet. Put oil in the rails of the slide/frame, disconnector head, barrel link, bushing/barrel contact area, barrel lugs.

[seabee1]

lube it up, and try another mag. And make sure you're not limp wristing it.

[aye_dre]

I would hope it's just an ammo issue, less fixing for me. But thanks next trip I'll try some 124g so see if it resolves itself

[GlockN'Roll]

I'm betting that ammo does not have enough pressure to reliably cycle the action of a brand new 1911.

Buy some factory 124 grain Rem, Win, Fed or PMC.

Check your extractor for proper tension. I'm thinking the ejector is fine but see if it's broken.

Run it wet.

Put oil in the rails of the slide/frame, disconnector head, barrel link, bushing/barrel contact area, barrel lugs.

All of this


Factory ammo, the hotter the better, is IMHO the way to break in a new pistol...

[sffred]

Looks like a RIA conversion. (38super GI with a 9mm drop in barrel) try tunning the extractor. And please let us know if it's a ramped frame or ramped barrel.

[aye_dre]

Looks like a RIA conversion. (38super GI with a 9mm drop in barrel) try tunning the extractor. And please let us know if it's a ramped frame or ramped barrel.

No conversion, came from factory as a 9mm. Non ramped barrel

[Oceanbob]

All of the above.

Consider you might be riding the slide with your thumb or hand.

Let us know the fix

Be well
Bob

[alland]

I would try a lighter recoil spring. My Springfield 9mm Range Officer came with a 9 pound spring and runs perfectly. My 9mm STI is running a 10 pound spring.

[XDJYo]

First culprit with ANY new gun is to make sure it has been properly field stripped, cleaned and lubed. They don't all come ready to shoot out of the box.

Next is to try another brand of factory ammo. Especially with 9 mm, I always try to shoot 124 initially. Heavier bullet means a bit more oomph.

What 1911 is that? I just watched a video this morning about a Springfield 9 mm 1911 that didn't have the correct chamber (it was chamfered slightly???) and had the wrong link.

One thing you can do to test it is a plunk test to see if the round will drop into the barrel easily.

Hope you get it sorted out quickly and painlessly.

[ojisan]

That's called a stovepipe jam.
Causes:
- Slide spring too stiff, the slide is not coming back far enough so that the fired case gets a strong kick out of the breech.
Can also be ammo that does not have enough recoil to push the slide all the way back.
- Next to check is the extractor.
If it does not have enough tension to hold the fired case against the breech face, then the ejector will not be able to knock the case out of the breech.
- If this is a gun built from parts, and ammo power and extractor tension is OK, then the ejector may be too short.

[AtomicOrange]

Try another recoil spring. My fullsize 9mm runs a 12lb spring and is very reliable.

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[Chapped Hide]

Freedommunitions

This is your problem, weak rounds.