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  • nickel
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 137

    Where can I find 1,440 ft/s FMJ 9mm?

    I am looking to do ballistic testing at work.

    The requirement specifically asks for a 9mm (9x19), 124 grain, FMJ, traveling at 1,440 ft/s.
    I would like to get as close as possible to 1,440 ft/s without going over too much.

    Does anyone know of any commercial loads that meet this requirement?

    Everything I see that gets close to this velocity either isn't a FMJ or isn't 124 grain.

    Any help would be appreciated!
    Last edited by nickel; 08-24-2017, 2:44 PM.
  • #2
    slayer61
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 1402

    That puts you to almost 180 PF. To get that, you're gonna have to roll your own. Good luck. Shoot safe.
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    • #3
      DrewN
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1887

      Cor Bon pushes a 125 JHP to 1380ish out of a Sub2K, so maybe it's doable. 9x23 should get there I'd think.

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      • #4
        lazyworm
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1636

        I think you'd probably need hand loads and a rifle length barrel. For reference these +p and +p+ (non fmj) loads are still 100+ fps slower than what you need.

        examples: https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=119

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        • #5
          Catch
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1327

          thats pretty fast, faster than +p or nato.

          Liberty civil offers a 50gr @ 2000fps, but you should want your bullets to do something.

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          • #6
            Sailormilan2
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 3404

            To get that velocity with a 124 gr bullet you'll need either a 9x23 or a .357 Sig.
            Unfortunately, Winchester doesn't make a factory load using the FMJ bullet (at least not that I found).
            The .357Sig usually comes with a 125 gr bullet. Though there may be some companies that use the 124 gr bullet.

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            • #7
              elSquid
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              • Aug 2007
              • 11844

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              • #8
                hermosabeach
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 18901

                The are specs for commercial loads... SAAMI

                These specs minimize the # of guns that KB- blow up- each year.

                The velocity/ bullet weight you are seeking is probably above the max pressure levels allowed by SAAMI and other entities.
                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                • #9
                  SantaCabinetguy
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 15137

                  Like Hirtenberg L7A1?

                  I think most of that has dried up. Might want to check the sub-gun boards.
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                  • #10
                    Lead Waster
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                    • Sep 2010
                    • 16646

                    Originally posted by nickel
                    I am looking to do ballistic testing at work.
                    ...


                    PLEASE tell us that you work at a range and not the Post Office ...
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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 18901

                      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                      • #12
                        nickel
                        Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 137

                        Originally posted by Lead Waster
                        PLEASE tell us that you work at a range and not the Post Office ...
                        Neither!

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                        • #13
                          nickel
                          Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 137

                          Originally posted by Sailormilan2
                          To get that velocity with a 124 gr bullet you'll need either a 9x23 or a .357 Sig.
                          Unfortunately, Winchester doesn't make a factory load using the FMJ bullet (at least not that I found).
                          The .357Sig usually comes with a 125 gr bullet. Though there may be some companies that use the 124 gr bullet.
                          Thanks but the requirements call out 9x19.

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                          • #14
                            bwhited
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1947

                            Where did these specifications come from?
                            Nothing commercial will do that, that I know of.
                            I have shot 38 Super Comp at those velocities and beyond using 115. (1,600 max). That was a compressed load.
                            Not sure if you can even get that velocity out of the 9mm case with a 124.


                            Originally posted by nickel
                            I am looking to do ballistic testing at work.

                            The requirement specifically asks for a 9mm (9x19), 124 grain, FMJ, traveling at 1,440 ft/s.
                            I would like to get as close as possible to 1,440 ft/s without going over too much.

                            Does anyone know of any commercial loads that meet this requirement?

                            Everything I see that gets close to this velocity either isn't a FMJ or isn't 124 grain.

                            Any help would be appreciated!

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                            • #15
                              nickel
                              Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 137

                              Originally posted by bwhited
                              Where did these specifications come from?
                              Nothing commercial will do that, that I know of.
                              I have shot 38 Super Comp at those velocities and beyond using 115. (1,600 max). That was a compressed load.
                              Not sure if you can even get that velocity out of the 9mm case with a 124.
                              The requirements come from the customer... I didn't negotiate the contract.

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