1911 vs HK USP 45

[crufflers]

Have both. 1911 has adjustable sights too. 1911 is way cool. HK is way cool and more fun, easier to shoot.

JMHO
Bill

Both my 1911's have adjustable target sights, one is a .45 and the other is a 9mm. USP Expert .45 has adjustable sights too. They are all fun to shoot.

[Che762x39]

How's it going everyone, so I really like the USP 45 for its rugged reliability but I also love the 1911 for its cool factor, I was looking at a Springfield range officer. It seems that a 1911 is not as reliable as an HK USP. If you had to choose one, which would it be? Thanks

1911 for the cool factor and the win. Of course go with 45 ACP.

[wurger]

1911 for me. HK USP/45 trigger geometry just didn't work for me (45 was a bit better than the USP). Didn't enjoy shooting either one of them, sold both.

Personal choice. Gotta shoot em to know.

[nimbus]

I have a Springfield TRP and an HK Expert 45. Both have been reliable, but I'd go with my Expert by a hair just because it weighs less. Keep in mind the Expert has HK's match trigger that, to me, is way better than a stock USP trigger.

Grip size is also a factor. Make sure any pistol you buy fits your hand the way you like it to.

Stock Springfield RO vs standard USP, I'd still get the USP and drop in the match trigger kit.

[jyo]

I vote USPf 45---I can't seem to miss with mine and it has never jammed---I have large, but not meaty hands and the USPf fits me just fine...

[E92335i]

I prefer 1911.

[ap3572001]

How's it going everyone, so I really like the USP 45 for its rugged reliability but I also love the 1911 for its cool factor, I was looking at a Springfield range officer. It seems that a 1911 is not as reliable as an HK USP. If you had to choose one, which would it be? Thanks

Its a tough one.....

HK USP .45 is about as good as it gets if You want a duty .45acp pistol. I carried one on duty, owned 3 and still own one. Its a solid , reliable and VERY accurate 12 shot pistol.

In order to make it a fair comparison to a 1911 at the VERY MINIMUM I would take a full size current production COLT COMBAT ELITE with Wilson 47D magazines.

1911 feels much better in my hands and the ones I own are very reliable.

But if I had to grab a gun in a hurry , I would reach for my USP 45 every time.

My custom 1911's are my favorite guns to bring to the range.

[teflondog]

Where is this reliable stuff coming from? I'm genuinely curious. Odds are, you'd be dead long before you fired enough shots to jam either gun in shtf. Pick whatever feels right and what you want to shoot. Personally, I would take a 1911 over usp even in the apocalypse. I would however pick a Sig P226 over either.

My 1911s will malfunction if not properly lubed. I once dropped my USP 9 in the mud so I submerged it in a lake to clean it off. Then I locked the slide back and wiped it down with a dry towel. Afterwards it still functioned flawlessly for the next 500 rounds. My 1911s wouldn't have stood up to that neglect.

[drunktank]

I had that same decision and went with the USP. It was more reliable than any 1911 I've owned out the box (except my Scorpion) and has a higher capacity. Yes you can run CMC 10 round mags (which I own are think are great by the way), but they protrude out the bottom quite a bit and will print extremely while carrying which ruins the purpose of why many buy a 1911 in the first place. And to think "it's only 2 or 3 more rounds" means you can't be objective about comparing the two platforms in the first place. I prefer the 1911's trigger, as do most people, and that equates to more shots on target but that is negligible depending on overall practice and training. Plus if you're gun malfunctions or is picky with HD ammo, that is a great limiting factor is the weapon is to be used for self defense.

[JDay]

These both hold 10+1. I only trust 1 not to snag on my clothing.

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[bmk20398]

These both hold 10+1. I only trust 1 not to snag on my clothing.
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Off topic but, how do you use X-treme 45 bullets?
RN should be for 45ACP but .452 (I expect .451)
FP should be for 45LC, 454Casull but .451 (I expect .452)

or we don't have to care about 0.001?

[JDay]

Off topic but, how do you use X-treme 45 bullets?
RN should be for 45ACP but .452 (I expect .451)
FP should be for 45LC, 454Casull but .451 (I expect .452)

or we don't have to care about 0.001?

Those are .451.

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[bmk20398]

Thank you, sure this is .451 for 45ACP

45-200 SWC
Quantity of 500
Diameter: 0.451
UPC: 819304313361

strange their 45-255 FP cannelure is .451 and reviewers are using for 460XVR...

[JDay]

All 3 are swc. Box in the middle is .451 labeled "45 ACP". Same size my manuals say.



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[timeexposure]

When I discovered what a joy the 1911 is, I bought nine of them-five Nighthawk, three Wilson, and a Springfield Custom.
I bought a USP Expert .45 for a third/fourth of the cost of some of those fancy 1911's, and shot the USP just as well.
Knowing what I know now? I wouldn't hesitate to start with the USP.
Maybe end with it.