Single Stack 45, Not DA/SA, Not 1911

[Gat Man]

Take another look at the Kahr P45.

[Oldmandan]

The Kahr can use 1911 mags, thats a plus!

[vospertw]

Thanks all. I didn't realize the XD's were single stack so will check that out. Also didn't know about the Kahr magazine trick - that is pretty cool, especially since Kahr doesn't give away their magazines for free...

Definitely gives me a few to rent along the way. Maybe I'll run to Yuma sometime and try the M&P.

As for 1911, I'd like to eventually pick one up in 9mm. Had a 45 RIA; great gun and probably shouldn't have let that one go!

[SkyHawk]

Thanks all. I didn't realize the XD's were single stack so will check that out. Also didn't know about the Kahr magazine trick - that is pretty cool, especially since Kahr doesn't give away their magazines for free...

Definitely gives me a few to rent along the way. Maybe I'll run to Yuma sometime and try the M&P.

As for 1911, I'd like to eventually pick one up in 9mm. Had a 45 RIA; great gun and probably shouldn't have let that one go!

Not the XD's, the XDs. XDS. Ex Dee Esss

The XD is double stack. The XDs is single stack. The 's' at the end means single stack. They are off roster, available in 3.3 and 4 inch barrel length, and have various extended mag options to give you more handle, because by default they are small and the flush mag is only 5 rounds.

[vospertw]

Skyhawk, didn't notice that you had "XDs". I took that for "plural" not the "S" model.

[Cortelli]

Thanks all. I didn't realize the XD's were single stack so will check that out. Also didn't know about the Kahr magazine trick - that is pretty cool, especially since Kahr doesn't give away their magazines for free...

Definitely gives me a few to rent along the way. Maybe I'll run to Yuma sometime and try the M&P.

As for 1911, I'd like to eventually pick one up in 9mm. Had a 45 RIA; great gun and probably shouldn't have let that one go!

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They do with the purchase of a new gun through September

[Robert1234]

Does Hi Point make a .45?

[SkyHawk]

Skyhawk, didn't notice that you had "XDs". I took that for "plural" not the "S" model.

I know, it is confusing and easily assumed to be plural XD, especially if you are not familiar with them. That's why I wanted to clarify

I guess Springfield has taken to calling it XD-S in print, but the slide is marked XD with a small supserscript 's'.

[SkyHawk]

Does Hi Point make a .45?

Yes, I think they do! Straight blowback () striker fired single stack.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/09/13/review-hi-point-jhp-45-acp/

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/56880/redirect

[vospertw]

I know, it is confusing and easily assumed to be plural XD, especially if you are not familiar with them. That's why I wanted to clarify

I guess Springfield has taken to calling it XD-S in print, but the slide is marked XD with a small supserscript 's'.

Well, I thought they were doubles and a buddy of mine from PHX stopped by not too long ago with his XD 45. I was surprised at how much better the grip felt over the 45 Glocks - I didn't think it was too much bigger than my G17, at least in how it felt. So that made me wonder if they were indeed single stack... until I looked at your post again.

But... that makes me think I should at least rent an XD at the range and see how it feels. I didn't necessarily like the 9mm but that doesn't mean the 45 will be the same.

Cortelli - I hear you. I was tempted to pick up a CW9 at Turner's - the bronze one is on sale for $299, plus you can get the free mag as well. Of course, if I buy an XD in the next few weeks I could scoop up four mags, holster, and whatever else in the in SA bundle....

[crufflers]

The only one I could think of was the Kahr too. If you were looking at RIA 1911's you can do a lot worse than the 1911 FS Match - great gun and affordable. You mentioned USP's and others that don't meet your specs... I don't know why you don't want a DA/SA, but I shoot my USP Expert along side my Glock 41 and have no issues going back and forth same session. Both have perfectly manageable triggers and are very accurate. Throwing in a stock DA/SA CZ SP-01 takes more concentration for me. Like the G41 though, the USP has a large grip.

[SkyHawk]

We forgot to mention the M&P Shield 45. And it is definitely worth a look. Doh! Striker gun. They have a performance center version too, that is ported. Would be hard to find a Shield 45 PPT in CA, but they are out there.