Modified Isosceles

[Sam]

So there was some discussion on the 9mm handgun and recoil thread about the modified isosceles versus the weaver. This is a good read:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_149_24/ai_65910635

Of particular interest is that the author described the modified isosceles recoil as a piston moving back and forth rather than what I've been experiencing with the weaver as the recoil moves the pistol up and down. This definitely has gotten me interested in the modified isosceles and there will be much experimentation at the next range visit.

[Black Majik]

Youtube Rob Leatham, Todd Jarrett, David Sevigny, Jerry Miculek and see how they manage the recoil. None of them shoot weaver, along with their grip the muzzle barely rises at all.

While all have their own style of shooting, their fundamentals are all the same.

[rayra]

Threads about recoil and 9mm make me giggle.

Do some curls, pushups and pullups, stengthen your wrists.
Take a proper stance with your feet slightly spread, weight distributed evenly, lean slight forward at the waist, into the target. Then it pretty much doesn't matter what style you adopt, when controlling the recoil of a 9mm.

[22popnsplat]

Amazing , Raya sums it up in 1/2 paragraph and one photo . the original article used 6 pages and it was worthless

[Kid Stanislaus]

I'm here to tell ya that handling recoil from a 454 Casull with full tilt boogie loads is not something the "modified isocolise" is designed to do!!

[tankerman]

I'm here to tell ya that handling recoil from a 454 Casull with full tilt boogie loads is not something the "modified isocolise" is designed to do!!

Really? I've been shooting 454's for many many years and have never had any problem.

And I'll bet my idea of heavy loads and your idea of heavy loads a totally different. Willing to bet mine are heavier.

Are you a newb to 454's, cause I've never seen anyone use a Weaver to shoot bigbore (454 and up) revolvers accurately.

[virulosity]

Youtube Rob Leatham, Todd Jarrett, David Sevigny, Jerry Miculek and see how they manage the recoil. None of them shoot weaver, along with their grip the muzzle barely rises at all.

While all have their own style of shooting, their fundamentals are all the same.

They are also usually shooting .38 super or .38 special

[Black Majik]

They are also usually shooting .38 super or .38 special

Shhh! You'll ruin my point!

[Rudolf the Red]

They are also usually shooting .38 super or .38 special

JM is all about .45 ACP in a stock S&W 625.

[bobfried]

I'm here to tell ya that handling recoil from a 454 Casull with full tilt boogie loads is not something the "modified isocolise" is designed to do!!

REALLLYYYYYYYY??????????????????

I've been shooting .460 S&W and .500 S&W with a modified Isoceles for a year now, no problem here. I plink with .454 Casull in my .460 one handed with a slight McMillan cant.

It's all relative. When i first started shooting I went numb from a single round of .500 S&W out of an 8" barrel, I can handle the same load out of a 2.5" snubbie now and empty the cylinder.

Back to the OP, the modified isosceles is where it's at, I use it for everything and it's the de facto way to shoot as taught to most LEO organization now.

[tankerman]

They are also usually shooting .38 super or .38 special

That was in the 80's and certainly not JM. Did you only read that article? Or do you know more, like how many others use that stance as well?

[JTROKS]

Just some of the IPSC top shooters.
Old time favorite, but not currently competing - Jerry Barnhart.


The legend Rob Leatham


This guy is simply amazing - Todd Jarrett


The non 1911 man Eric Grauffel, came to the US and beat us in our own game.

[will227457]

Youtube Rob Leatham, Todd Jarrett, David Sevigny, Jerry Miculek and see how they manage the recoil. None of them shoot weaver, along with their grip the muzzle barely rises at all.

While all have their own style of shooting, their fundamentals are all the same.

+1 hand and wrist strength, forget about the weaver stance......

[rtlltj]

Thanks for that article. I've been switching back and forth lately trying both stances and for me Weaver is more forced and has many things you have to pay attention to. I don't want to have to think about how hard should I push with one hand or pull with the other. Under a stressful situation I don't think I'd be thinking about either or those.

btw: thumbs forward along the slide with the strong hand thumb over the weak both pointing at the target is to be used with isoceles correct?

[Sam]

+1 hand and wrist strength, forget about the weaver stance......

they do have some pretty impressive forearms