Let's talk triggers.

[Hank15]

OP, if you want the very best trigger with all the safety intact:

https://vanekcustom.com/3.html

[teflondog]

I usually polish the safety plunger so that the edges are a bit rounded. It gives a smoother ramp for the trigger bar to slide over.

[watevers1]

re-install everything and make sure everything is seated properly.

i have always felt that testing the trigger with the slide off felt really strange and unnatural, so im surprised that you're saying it feels great.

a few pics might help.

[crufflers]

re-install everything and make sure everything is seated properly.

i have always felt that testing the trigger with the slide off felt really strange and unnatural, so im surprised that you're saying it feels great.

a few pics might help.

It feels really weird, harsh, not smooth with any Glock I ever did that with. When I posted a reply to the OP here I had a G30S in-hand with minus connector. Doing those weird resets felt clunky gritty harsh wrong, IMHO.

[Packy14]

OP, if you want the very best trigger with all the safety intact:

https://vanekcustom.com/3.html

Nothing amazing about that... can get Wolff springs and an adjustable housing and polish everything for 30$ and end up as good or better.

[Siris]

I've never fired a full ZEV trigger, but I like those V4 Race connectors especially for $15 or whatever they go for right now. I absolutely prefer the TTI Grand Master kit on a gen4. For me they didn't seem to make as much difference on the gen3's and they cost more. I do have TTI connectors in my gen4 17 and 41 frames. I leave the springs stock.

You can remove the magazine and unload the gun to dry fire it also, testing the trigger and getting acquainted to it while not at the range.

Glad you like your trigger. How's the reset on that Pyramid?

I like the reset. It's pretty crisp. I do a lot of dry firing at home, it's been particularly useful developing muscle memory for the trigger break. After a few hundred rounds, the trigger has become very consistent.

[Siris]

Ron Avery, Bruce Grey, Northern Red and Ernest Langdon will sort you out. They're at Richmond Rod & Gun Club this year. Probably take a basic pistol class or 2 first. Check out the Defensive Shooting Club at Metcalf every other sunday, and Action Pistol Club at the 10th Street Range in San Jose every other saturday for that. You'll have to unlearn some of the stuff those guys promote, but you need to know how to safely draw, reholster and general range etiquette before running with the more experienced instructors.

http://www.richmondhotshots.com/

http://actionpistolclub.com/

https://www.facebook.com/DefensiveShootingClubhouse/

What you're missing in your rush to facepalm me is that putting a 2 lb trigger in the hands of a noob does 2 things; a super-light competition trigger in the hands of a noob is going to increase the chance of NDs, and second, the trigger is going to be a band aid for your poor trigger control. You're simply obfuscating the real issue. Also, if you told APC and DSC you're new to holster work with a 2 lb Glock trigger, they may not let you on the range. My competition Glock trigger is 5 lbs.

Much of what is sold by the snake oil salesman Lenny McGill from Glockstore is gimmicky, and preys on low information shooters.

I will definitely look into those classes. Now that I've identified the primary cause of my inaccuracy with the stock setup, I have a clearer idea of what I need to work on. Yes, I'm aware that having a 2lb trigger is unsafe. That's why I have multiple striker springs with different weights, depending on where I am planning to go shooting. If I plan to draw the loaded gun from a holster before shooting, I would not use a 2lb spring. That would not be very smart.

And yes, Lenny could sell ice to an eskimo. That's his job, he's a salesman. And a successful one from what I understand. There's a lot of gimmicky stuff on glockstore. That being said, I am very happy with my pyramid trigger kit.

[Siris]

I cannot agree more. I am sure a lot more time is spent by the R&D department of a firearm's company to make sure each component is design to it's safest optimum than some after market supplier.

Yes. Stock is definitely the safest general configuration for all-around use. I would without a doubt use a stock handgun for self defense.

[Siris]

I live in Campbell.
Let's go shooting.
I have a G17c with a Zev trigger that you can try (it's set up correctly).
And I would love to try the pyramid trigger.
I also have a few other guns that you might want to try out.
Do you go to Metcalf, Sunnyvale or Los Altos?
Let's check that thing out.
PM me if you are interested.

Recently I've been going to some BLM land in the desert - which I prefer because the etiquette is different from a normal range. I am open to Metcalf, Sunnyvale, Los Altos R&G or even Reed's Indoor Range.

I am not sure if I would go shooting with you because I don't know you personally. I am open to chatting first. I'll PM you with contact info.

[Siris]

Show us a video or we call bs. What kind of holdover are doing handgun Ammo to 150 yards. You just sound like an idiot.

I have a video of it on my phone. Yes, I am an idiot. No, I don't care if some random person on the internet doesn't believe me. I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. The fact that you refuse to believe that someone could hit a target at 150 yards says a lot about you and very little about me. I originally posted this thread because I didn't understand the mechanics of the trigger. Thanks to a couple people in this thread, now I do.

Hooray!

[Siris]

This isn't 150 but entertaining.

Wow, that's ridiculous. Jerry's reaction is priceless.

[Siris]

Sounds like the post above is spot on and there is a lot of good advice in this thread. Personal experience- the pyramid trigger is a very poor copy of the ZEV. Google it if you want to see how many people post horror stories of the Pyramid glock stuff. Glockstore should be willing to help you out- if they arn't there are plenty of awesome(experienced!) local Glock smiths. If you want a shop, I recommend Gunfighter Tactical very highly. They recently completed several custom Glocks for customers that were gorgeous.

When I tried the ZEV trigger I absolutely hated it. It was spongier than my stock trigger and felt cheap. The Pyramid may be a clone, but each person has their own tastes and there are no absolutes when it comes to anything.

[Siris]

No fan of Glockstore trigger. $250 later, pro installed by them and many light strikes until 6lb spring was installed. Too much marketing and hype, overpriced and lacking value and performance.

I did have two light strikes with the 2lb trigger configuration, out of about 400 rounds or so. I don't think you need a pro to install the trigger though, it's pretty easy. You just drop it in there.

I'm kind of amused by how many people are trash talking this trigger. Interesting how everyone thinks whatever they have is the best, or whatever they do is the best.

[Siris]

Nothing amazing about that... can get Wolff springs and an adjustable housing and polish everything for 30$ and end up as good or better.

Agreed.

[Siris]

You need to understand that it's got nothing to do with you on a personal level. The potential for a negligent discharge is higher with new shooters than it is with experienced shooters, and it's higher with guns with lighter triggers than it is with guns with heavier triggers. So when you combine a new shooter with a gun with a light trigger you're getting into very dangerous territory. Nobody is saying that you WILL have a ND. But it's a very valid safety concern.

I'm glad you got your gun fixed and had the opportunity to learn about how it works.

Yeah, I understand that none of this is personal - how could it be? Nonetheless, thank you for pointing that out.

I understand the safety concern. What I have been doing to try to be as safe as possible is only holstering the gun with the magazine removed and the chamber clear. I am not in a rush to throw any lead. I shoot purely for the pleasure of it.