Let's talk triggers.

[Siris]

So I recently purchased the Ultimate Pyramid Trigger Kit for my Glock.

In the instructional video, Lenny suggests testing the trigger before putting the slide back on. I found this to be very confusing because this is not representative of the trigger action. The trigger also needed to be broken in with a few hundred rounds before it became smooth.

I have revised this initial post because my confusion has been obviated by a combination of several responses to this thread as well as the experience of shooting the gun a bunch of times.

I must say, the Ultimate Pyramid Trigger Kit makes my Glock feel like an entirely different gun. I absolutely love it. I also love being able to configure the trigger pull to be anywhere between 2 and 6 pounds. Let's continue the discussion in this thread with a focus on triggers.

[meno377]

I don't know what you mean by fancy schmancy, but did you replace the trigger spring also? In addition if you replaced the striker (firing pin) spring to a light weight like 2 pounds with a light trigger spring, that would more likely create a mushy trigger with little click when the striker releases. Have you fired it yet? If yes, did you have any lite strikes on any rounds?

Was it a Pyramid-Trigger?

[Siris]

I don't know what you mean by fancy schmancy, but did you replace the trigger spring also? In addition if you replaced the striker (firing pin) spring to a light weight like 2 pounds with a light trigger spring, that would more likely create a mushy trigger with little click when the striker releases. Have you fired it yet? If yes, did you have any lite strikes on any rounds?

Was it a Pyramid-Trigger?

Hi Meno377. By fancy schmancy I am referring to the Ultimate Pyramid Trigger kit. The trigger and connector came pre-assembled with a spring connecting the two. I have not yet fired it, but I intend to do so tomorrow.

One other odd thing I am noticing is that the trigger will now pull with the slide locked back if I reset it first. I don't recall my glock doing that before. Perhaps I am just losing my mind. With the slide locked back, the trigger action feels identical to when the slide is off. With the slide forward, the action feels spongy and inconsistent.

Perhaps I just need to break it in a little bit. I shall report back to this thread tomorrow.

[JTROKS]

See if your trigger bar is rubbing hard against something such as the firing pin safety. If you have a gen 4 check how much the bump is rubbing.

[alexisjohnson]

something is wrong. The feel should be the same on every shot

[meno377]

Hi Meno377. By fancy schmancy I am referring to the Ultimate Pyramid Trigger kit. The trigger and connector came pre-assembled with a spring connecting the two. I have not yet fired it, but I intend to do so tomorrow.

One other odd thing I am noticing is that the trigger will now pull with the slide locked back if I reset it first. I don't recall my glock doing that before. Perhaps I am just losing my mind. With the slide locked back, the trigger action feels identical to when the slide is off. With the slide forward, the action feels spongy and inconsistent.

Perhaps I just need to break it in a little bit. I shall report back to this thread tomorrow.

It should feel different though when the slide is off as opposed to on. The glock system when you pull the trigger will cock the striker which creates resistance, then it will release the striker at some point. The pyramid trigger works the same way as I understand, but the travel to ignition is shorter as well as the reset.

Like you say, you will get a feel when you actually fire it. If you come across any lite strikes, then you need to decide whether to try different ammo or change to a heavier striker spring. Do you already know which striker spring is installed? How many pounds? Is this a competition pistol? Not a defense pistol?

Also did you adjust the pre-travel and over-travel?


Watch this video OP. Notice what he mentions about the pyramid trigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhvYjnJZc3o

[Calico1404]

Safety plunger OP. That is the grit you are feeling most likely. Either give it a .25 polish or look into the fancy pants plunger to match your fancy bar.

[baranski]

Bring that thing back to Glockstore and get yourself a ZEV!

[003]

It appears to me that all too often some snake oil salesman comes alone and convinces someone that they need to “upgrade” various parts of their firearm. Much of the time the “upgrade” is different but not really any better, and often times not as good as the original stock OEM part.

Please keep in mind that “new and different” does not necessarily mean better. It has been my experience that buying an additional case of ammunition and spending time on the range is a better investment than installing an expensive aftermarket part.

[_TomT_]

Make sure the trigger return spring is in the same orientation that it original came in. Even that minute detail can affect how the trigger behaves.

[nedro]

OP's second paragraph tells us he doesn't understand how the Glock trigger works.
Cannot help until this is resolved.

[Packy14]

Crap trigger. No way to fix that.

[crufflers]

So I recently upgraded the trigger in my Glock 17 to the fancy schmancy one from GlockStore. Installation was fairly straight forward. I adjusted the weight of the firing pin spring to suit my needs for now.

I notice something strange, however and I'm not sure if this should be happening or not. When I take the slide off and reset the trigger, the trigger action feels perfect. It's super crisp. There is no take-up or grit. It starts off at a very gentle wall and breaks cleanly.

When I replace the slide, the whole experience changes to something worse than the stock trigger. Suddenly, there is a noticeable amount of pre-travel and it is not smooth at all. Ultra creepy. It feels like there is some kind of added friction going on inside of the trigger mechanism. The gentle wall of resistance before the trigger breaks is gone.

Am I correct to assume that something funny is going on with my trigger or slide? Or should the trigger action feel completely different with the slide off on a Glock?

I think you are incorrect and testing the trigger after "resetting" then pulling it when it is basically connected to nothing, not doing its job. Sounds real silly.

Hi Meno377. By fancy schmancy I am referring to the Ultimate Pyramid Trigger kit. The trigger and connector came pre-assembled with a spring connecting the two. I have not yet fired it, but I intend to do so tomorrow.

One other odd thing I am noticing is that the trigger will now pull with the slide locked back if I reset it first. I don't recall my glock doing that before. Perhaps I am just losing my mind. With the slide locked back, the trigger action feels identical to when the slide is off. With the slide forward, the action feels spongy and inconsistent.

Perhaps I just need to break it in a little bit. I shall report back to this thread tomorrow.

Sounds like a good plan. Your Glock DID DO THAT before you put in the new trigger. My take on this is that you liked the stock trigger. Have fun.

something is wrong. The feel should be the same on every shot

Maybe at the range actually shooting the gun normally, but not when doing screwy things like resetting the trigger with the slide off and resetting the trigger with the slide locked back.

OP might consider trying a simple GLOCK minus connector or a ZEV V4 Race Connector.

[Hank15]

So I recently upgraded the trigger in my Glock 17 to the fancy schmancy one from GlockStore. Installation was fairly straight forward. I adjusted the weight of the firing pin spring to suit my needs for now.

I notice something strange, however and I'm not sure if this should be happening or not. When I take the slide off and reset the trigger, the trigger action feels perfect. It's super crisp. There is no take-up or grit. It starts off at a very gentle wall and breaks cleanly.

When I replace the slide, the whole experience changes to something worse than the stock trigger. Suddenly, there is a noticeable amount of pre-travel and it is not smooth at all. Ultra creepy. It feels like there is some kind of added friction going on inside of the trigger mechanism. The gentle wall of resistance before the trigger breaks is gone.

Am I correct to assume that something funny is going on with my trigger or slide? Or should the trigger action feel completely different with the slide off on a Glock?

Nothing is wrong, the top of your trigger bar is making contact with the firing pin safety plunger. Firing pin safety plunger is on the slide, that's why it only happens when you put the slide on. You can take care of this by buying a rounded firing pin safety plunger, or using a lighter weight safety plunger spring, or both. Just make sure all safeties still function afterwards.

[Packy14]

I could post this a couple times a day...

But it's easier to drop $ than increase skill ...