AR Pistol

[HawkMan]

The moment you put a stock on an AR Pistol, you've created an SBR.

So the, limiting factor behind this AW status for an AR Pistol... in short, is this:
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

... because we are talking about "any one of the following" and your AR Pistol is ALWAYS going to have the magazine location outside of the pistol grip.
In otherwords, you cannot go featureless, because your AR Pistol always has this feature.

Thus, for AR pistols (specifically) your only options are essentially
1) fixed magazine and breaktop reloading, many devices out there to accomplish this
2) fixed magazine and reload via ejection port (Mean Arms)

Of course, you can register it, but IIRC it's not quite clear as to whether or not you can remove your Bullet Button and have a regular magazine drop, after registration. Someone can correct me here if I'm wrong.

I'll admit these new laws took ALL THE FUN out of AR Pistols.

Me personally, I'm using the Mean Arms reloader. My rifles will be featureless.

Good luck!

Holy crap, my mind has just been all over the place today. Idk why I didn't realize the HERA CQR stock would make it an SBR.

Yea, it seems like the laws here just ruin AR pistols. I'll probably just end up building a featureless rifle.

[7POINTSIXTWO]

Ledesma Arms in Chino makes a California legal AR pistol sold to the public.

http://www.ledesmaarms.com/pistols.asp?Mod=fp&view=M

[BigPimping]

Should have bought it last year

[Mr. Torgue]

Read the first line, very carefully:

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(4) A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

It doesn't matter if it has a shroud, magazine outside of the pistol grip, second handgrip, any of those. If it has a fixed magazine, it's not an assault weapon.

Yeah, I missed that, shouldn't be on here when I'm half awake from work.

If you're referring to a free float handguard... I'm not exactly sure its the same as a barrel shroud - but someone else is going to have to clarify that.

I think the argument is that the handguard is attached to the upper, not the barrel (itself)? Not sure...

If I remember correctly, because it allows a forward grip that is over the barrel it fits the shroud definition.