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  • #16
    doggie
    Banned
    • Apr 2017
    • 719

    Originally posted by lawj11
    Yep, just like telephones with a cord and printed news papers.
    Tell that to the 1911 and revolver guys.
    By the way, ARs have hammers.

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    • #17
      static2126
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2013
      • 5619

      Originally posted by lawj11
      not ugly. CZ's are ugly.
      If you think CZs are ugly and Glocks look good I question your asthetics.

      From a man who carries a G19, shoots a G19 in matches, classes, and owns a bunch of them.
      Last edited by static2126; 04-29-2017, 2:30 PM.

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      • #18
        doggie
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 719

        CZ 75s look very pleasing to the eye.

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        • #19
          Cokebottle
          Señor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          The "fit" is when it doesn't match what people are used to.
          The Glock grip angle is shallower than the 1911 and XD. This puts the bore axis more in line with the wrist, IMHO, a good thing because it helps to control recoil.

          But for someone who has spent their entire life training with the 1911/92FS/CZ/XD, it takes an adjustment to their grip to hit the target.... their ingrained grip is going to have the Glock shoot high.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #20
            lawj11
            Banned
            • Jan 2017
            • 323

            I will never understand. CZ's are ugly to me. They look like one of those German Schnauzer dogs...I also think of camels, llamas, goats...basically any ugly animal.
            Last edited by lawj11; 04-29-2017, 2:32 PM.

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            • #21
              lawj11
              Banned
              • Jan 2017
              • 323

              Originally posted by Cokebottle
              The "fit" is when it doesn't match what people are used to.
              The Glock grip angle is shallower than the 1911 and XD. This puts the bore axis more in line with the wrist, IMHO, a good thing because it helps to control recoil.

              But for someone who has spent their entire life training with the 1911/92FS/CZ/XD, it takes an adjustment to their grip to hit the target.... their ingrained grip is going to have the Glock shoot high.
              I agree, but with a little practice it become a non-issue, at least in my case.

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              • #22
                static2126
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 5619

                Originally posted by Cokebottle
                The "fit" is when it doesn't match what people are used to.
                The Glock grip angle is shallower than the 1911 and XD. This puts the bore axis more in line with the wrist, IMHO, a good thing because it helps to control recoil.

                But for someone who has spent their entire life training with the 1911/92FS/CZ/XD, it takes an adjustment to their grip to hit the target.... their ingrained grip is going to have the Glock shoot high.

                This is truth.

                I can shoot good groups with anything at the range however on a timer and out of holster for speed and accuracy, i shoot everthing but Glock low (because 90% of my rounds go through a G19).

                So while it is true that anything can be shot well, guns not used to glocks will shoot high when the guns are run for speed.
                Last edited by static2126; 04-29-2017, 2:40 PM.

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                • #23
                  Cokebottle
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by lawj11
                  I agree, but with a little practice it become a non-issue, at least in my case.
                  Did you spend 30 years working for the LAPD shooting the 92FS?

                  Old habits can be hard to break.

                  Likewise, one who shoots several different guns, each with a different grip angle, safety, and trigger is truly a master of none of them.
                  If you are compensating, then you are compromising.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #24
                    doggie
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 719

                    Originally posted by lawj11
                    I will never understand. CZ's are ugly to me. They look like one of those German Schnauzer dogs...I also think of camels, llamas, goats...basically any ugly animal.
                    Glock slides look like Blocks of wood. You must like basic shapes.

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                    • #25
                      lawj11
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 323

                      Glock slides are simple and elegant looking. The Frames can be a bit nicer, but I love the slides.

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                      • #26
                        static2126
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 5619

                        Originally posted by lawj11
                        I will never understand. CZ's are ugly to me. They look like one of those German Schnauzer dogs...I also think of camels, llamas, goats...basically any ugly animal.
                        Don't know what to say if you find these ugly...




                        Personally I find the G19 somewhat ugly and not very exciting. That said I shoot extremely well with it and love the size to firepower ratio. The G19 is my favorite firearm
                        Last edited by static2126; 04-29-2017, 2:41 PM.

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                        • #27
                          lawj11
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 323

                          Originally posted by Cokebottle
                          Did you spend 30 years working for the LAPD shooting the 92FS?

                          Old habits can be hard to break.

                          Likewise, one who shoots several different guns, each with a different grip angle, safety, and trigger is truly a master of none of them.
                          If you are compensating, then you are compromising.
                          Tusche, but I think a good marksman should be able to learn to shoot any weapon effectively. I bet jerry miculek can pick up your 92fs, practice for 30 minutes and then outshoot you with it.

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                          • #28
                            lawj11
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 323

                            Originally posted by static2126
                            Don't know what to say if you find these ugly...




                            Personally I find the G19 somewhat ugly and not very exciting. That said I shoot extremely well with it and love the size to firepower ratio. The G19 is my favorite firearm
                            Those look like glossy tasers. Why are the slides so anemic, how do you rack that thing? I also prefer brunettes over blonds so I may be weird.

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                            • #29
                              static2126
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 5619

                              Originally posted by lawj11
                              Tusche, but I think a good marksman should be able to learn to shoot any weapon effectively. I bet jerry miculek can pick up your 92fs, practice for 30 minutes and then outshoot you with it.
                              Little different. That is like saying Lebron could learn (whatever sport you have done your whole life) and be better than you within a day.

                              Jerry is a special breed and all he does is shoot. For everyone else pick something and stay with it.

                              Also keep in mind non timed/non moving range shooting is easy with any gun as long as you can handle the recoil and not flinch.

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                              • #30
                                BigPimping
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 21459

                                Originally posted by doggie
                                You mean "redundant"

                                No rookie, you misheard the pimp. It's an oxymoron. Consider school to be in session!!!!
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