Micro RONI Glock 17 Stabilizer Legal??

[sigstroker]

That kit requires compliance with CA assault weapons laws because installing it causes the semi-auto pistol to have a "barrel shroud". [PC 30515(a)(4)(C)]

In order to legally install it on a semi-auto pistol, the semi-auto pistol must operate using a fixed 10 round magazine.
Since "bullet button" style maglocks are no longer legal compliance devices, in order to be considered a fixed magazine, the magazine needs to be installed in such a way that it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or the magazine must be welded/epoxied/riveted into the firearm's magazine well.

It's not a rifle. Maglock crap not applicable.

[Varg Vikernes]

they are goofy as hell, why not just have a handgun for anything other than malltacticalness?

[Quiet]

It's not a rifle. Maglock crap not applicable.

Because it's a semi-auto pistol, is the reason why it requires a fixed magazine.

A "barrel shroud" is not a restricted feature for semi-auto rifles.

A "barrel shroud" is a restricted feature for semi-auto pistols. [PC 30515(a)(4)(C)]

Because it is a restricted feature, in order to be CA legal, the semi-auto pistol must operate using a fixed 10 or less round magazine.

[Jacksonmichael73]

Legal in cali yes they are

[scootle]

Because it's a semi-auto pistol, is the reason why it requires a fixed magazine.

A "barrel shroud" is not a restricted feature for semi-auto rifles.

A "barrel shroud" is a restricted feature for semi-auto pistols. [PC 30515(a)(4)(C)]

Because it is a restricted feature, in order to be CA legal, the semi-auto pistol must operate using a fixed 10 or less round magazine.

Does CA do "constructive possession" for this kind of thing?

e.g. if you own one inside CA, but only assemble w/ pistol to shoot outside of CA?

[boopiejones]

I often hear the concern about constructive possession, but don't really understand WHY people are concerned. There are many people that probably have enough stuff in their garages to make a pipe bomb, and probably have enough stuff in their gun safe to make an illegal weapon. Just because I own a shotgun and a hacksaw, does that mean I'm gonna make a sawed off shotgun?

Bottom line, and this is just my opinion, you'd need to do something REALLY bad before anyone would even consider marching into your home and cataloguing the gun parts you have lying around. If you've done something that bad, then I think constructive possession is going to be the least of your worries.

[scootle]

I often hear the concern about constructive possession, but don't really understand WHY people are concerned. There are many people that probably have enough stuff in their garages to make a pipe bomb, and probably have enough stuff in their gun safe to make an illegal weapon. Just because I own a shotgun and a hacksaw, does that mean I'm gonna make a sawed off shotgun?

Bottom line, and this is just my opinion, you'd need to do something REALLY bad before anyone would even consider marching into your home and cataloguing the gun parts you have lying around. If you've done something that bad, then I think constructive possession is going to be the least of your worries.

Agreed... this is usually how I look at it as well. Still, it'd be good to know if constructive possession is even a thing for "assault weapon" parts such as the Roni. Granted, one could argue that spare GI pistol grip from the LPK tossed in a box is an "assault weapon" part as well.

[onelonehorseman]

. . . and in before the "can you shoulder it?" question.

[scootle]

. . . and in before the "can you shoulder it?" question.

Not really a question any more since this actually uses a SB Tactical part.

[SCMA-1]

https://usa.caagearup.com/faq

[SCMA-1]

RONI STAB.does NOT have a shroud per PC30510 4 C,



California PC Section 30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, assault weapon also means any of the following:

4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

(B) A second handgrip.

(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

[9mmContagion]

Pretty simple to follow the handgun flow chart linked at the top of the website... FYI it has s shroud

[Christopher761]

RONI STAB.does NOT have a shroud per PC30510 4 C,



California PC Section 30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, assault weapon also means any of the following:

4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

(B) A second handgrip.

(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

It has something that partially encircles the barrel. And the RONI is not a slide.

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

[dozer wright]

It has something that partially encircles the barrel. And the RONI is not a slide.

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

If the barrel is inside a slide it cannot be enclosed in a barrel shroud.. The RonI goes over the whole Glock .

[Joe_OC]

If the barrel is inside a slide it cannot be enclosed in a barrel shroud.. The RonI goes over the whole Glock .

My FFL says it's legal...You are right...The barrel is already covered by a slide.