Micro RONI Glock 17 Stabilizer Legal??

[EminentAndrew]

I was wondering if this would be legal in CA?

Closest thing to a sub gun SBR were gonna get in California. I understand I can't shoulder it but I think it's still pretty cool.

https://usa.caagearup.com/micro-roni-17-stabilizer

[Varg Vikernes]

You would need a 16" barrel, and possible a BB or would it be a gripfin now?

[xxINKxx]

You would need a 16" barrel, and possible a BB or would it be a gripfin now?

That would be if it was being converted into a rifle. Like the Roni carbine kit that comes with a 16" barrel. This is just a stabilizer only

Its still a pistol. Like how everyone throws the stabilizer on their AR pistols or AK Draco...

Only thing I would look into, is if a pistol in Ca can have a barrel shroud which that kit looks like it gives..

[Blademan21]

You would need a 16" barrel, and possible a BB or would it be a gripfin now?

Off topic kinda..... I did the Carbine kit and it's a hoot to shoot.

[hermosabeach]

Did you click on their link- terms and conditions?

https://usa.caagearup.com/roni-nfa-disclaimer

[hermosabeach]

RONI PISTOL CARBINE CONVERSION KIT
ALL NFA RULES APPLY

WARNING! | From BATF RONI Classification Letter of May 06 2010 Paragraph 5
1) Addition of the RONI stock set to a Glock type Pistol results in the manufacture of a
short-barreled rifle (SBR) which falls within the classification of firearms subject to NFA controls
(Section 5845(a)(3). The manufacture of SBR’s is generally lawful when performed after the receipt of a properly submitted ATF Form 1 (application to make and register a firearm) and submission of a $200.00 making tax payment.
a) Section 479.70 A firearm may be made without payment of the making tax by or on behalf
of, any State or possession of the United States, any political subdivision thereof, or an official police organization of such a government entity engaged in criminal investigations. Any person making a firearm under this exemption shall first file an application, in duplicate on Form 1 (firearms) and obtain the approval of the director as prescribed in section 479.62. (Editor’s Note: The 479.70 tax exemption does not apply to individual officer purchases.)

WARNING! | Provided By Our Legal Counsel
2) If you actually possess or constructively possess, a pistol and the RONI device, even if the pistol is not assembled into the RONI device, the combination would constitute a short barrel rifle
(SBR) which may not be lawfully possessed unless it is registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.
You are in constructive possession of an object if you have dominion and control over it whether or not you are actually handling it.

WARNING! | Other Applicable Laws
3) State and Local Laws supersede NFA controls. Title 27 CFR Chapter II Section 479.52.
4) You must be over 21 years old.
5) Export of this product is controlled by US State Department & ITAR

[getpro56]

Website says CA legal.

[xxINKxx]

Once again ^^^ That is for CARBINE kit with an actual buttstock that doesn't have the 16" barrel. Doing so makes it a SBR.

OP is posting the arm brace/stabilizer kit. Clearly says non NFA. Not the same thing.

[sigstroker]

That would be if it was being converted into a rifle. Like the Roni carbine kit that comes with a 16" barrel. This is just a stabilizer only

Its still a pistol. Like how everyone throws the stabilizer on their AR pistols or AK Draco...

Only thing I would look into, is if a pistol in Ca can have a barrel shroud which that kit looks like it gives..

Yup, you would have to cut that thing out of there.

[Quiet]

OP is posting the arm brace/stabilizer kit. Clearly says non NFA. Not the same thing.

That kit requires compliance with CA assault weapons laws because installing it causes the semi-auto pistol to have a "barrel shroud". [PC 30515(a)(4)(C)]

In order to legally install it on a semi-auto pistol, the semi-auto pistol must operate using a fixed 10 round magazine.
Since "bullet button" style maglocks are no longer legal compliance devices, in order to be considered a fixed magazine, the magazine needs to be installed in such a way that it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or the magazine must be welded/epoxied/riveted into the firearm's magazine well.

[hermosabeach]

Link

Website says CA legal.

Ha ha ha

Did you click on the link on the website- I posted it above.....

[skosh69]

It weighs 45 lbs!!!!

Weight (ounce(s)): 720.0

[xxINKxx]

That kit requires compliance with CA assault weapons laws because installing it causes the semi-auto pistol to have a "barrel shroud". [PC 30515(a)(4)(C)]

In order to legally install it on a semi-auto pistol, the semi-auto pistol must operate using a fixed 10 round magazine.
Since "bullet button" style maglocks are no longer legal compliance devices, in order to be considered a fixed magazine, the magazine needs to be installed in such a way that it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or the magazine must be welded/epoxied/riveted into the firearm's magazine well.

Yep which I said above in post #3. barrel shroud is the only thing to look into for pistols because its prob not legal.

[9mmContagion]

Another thread on this?!?!

[getpro56]

Ha ha ha

Did you click on the link on the website- I posted it above.....

Yes I did.