DE 44mag Recoil Spring question

[Krissv]

Hello ya'll!

Quick question about the Desert eagle ( I know I know just hang in there)...

By removing the inner recoil springs, would I be able to shoot regular factory rounds from LAX Ammo or Freedom Munitions? Has anyone experienced with this? I'm thinking if there is less tension on the slide it will move far back enough to chamber the next round.

Here is what Ammo I have tried but was't able to cycle properly, the fired round gets ejected but it will not load a new round in the chamber. No limp wresting here, i had 2 range masters and a guy with is SW 500 try it just to take that factor out.

These were all factory new 240grn 1100-1200 FPS FMJ HP and SHP:
LAX Ammo
Freedom Munitions
PPU
Fiocchi

I have some PMC high velocity rounds that I haven't tried yet (1490 FPS)

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[dozer wright]

Add a little tiny tiny bit of grease to the slide . Makes a world of difference . I wouldn't go taking the springs apart .

[Krissv]

Add a little tiny tiny bit of grease to the slide . Makes a world of difference . I wouldn't go taking the springs apart .

I have slide-glide all over it, I'll check to see if I've missed any spots. Thanks.

[dozer wright]

I have slide-glide all over it, I'll check to see if I've missed any spots. Thanks.

Shouldn't need that much . Just tiny bit .

[Krissv]

Shouldn't need that much . Just tiny bit .

I might have to find someone to buy hot reloads from, factory ammonia too expensive. I might clean it and relube it. Thanks

[dozer wright]

I have never had a problem with the 44 mag set up in my Desert Eagle . Order up some Underwood ammo try that out .

[TKM]

The .44 eagle requires a certain amount of energy to work.

Commercial reloads are aimed at cost conscious revolver shooters.
Factory recommendations.

.44 Magnum - Mark I, VII, XIX Manufacturer Catalog# Weight Type
Federal Premium Hydra-Shock P44HSA 240 JHP
Gold Dot 23968 270 GDSP
PMC Starfire 44SFA 240 SFHP
PMC 44C 240 JHP
PMC Target 44D 240 TCSP
Remington Core-Lokt RH44MGA 275 JHP
Remington RH44MG2 240 SJHP
Remington RH44MG3 240 JHP
Remington RH44MG5 180 JHP
Winchester X44MHSP2 240 JHP
Winchester X44MSTHP2 210 JHP
UMC L44MG7 180 JHP

[Krissv]

The .44 eagle requires a certain amount of energy to work.

Commercial reloads are aimed at cost conscious revolver shooters.
Factory recommendations.

.44 Magnum - Mark I, VII, XIX Manufacturer Catalog# Weight Type
Federal Premium Hydra-Shock P44HSA 240 JHP
Gold Dot 23968 270 GDSP
PMC Starfire 44SFA 240 SFHP
PMC 44C 240 JHP
PMC Target 44D 240 TCSP
Remington Core-Lokt RH44MGA 275 JHP
Remington RH44MG2 240 SJHP
Remington RH44MG3 240 JHP
Remington RH44MG5 180 JHP
Winchester X44MHSP2 240 JHP
Winchester X44MSTHP2 210 JHP
UMC L44MG7 180 JHP

The magtech and pmc worked fine, no issues. Thank you.

[Krissv]

I have never had a problem with the 44 mag set up in my Desert Eagle . Order up some Underwood ammo try that out .

So far magtech and pcm worked, I'll try the American eagle next Thank you.

[JTROKS]

Desert Eagles like full power ammo. You don't have to get the specialty max ammo loads, but the ammo can't be low pressure loads. I reload for my DEagle in 44 mag and most of the starting loads on published data are almost too weak to reliably cycle the action. My first DEagle was in 357 Magnum. I was very displeased with it expecting it to run with all types of ammo that will go bang in my revolvers. It sealed my belief in revolvers being the most reliable handguns especially when shooting Magnum hunting sidearms. The gas system of the DEagle is designed to handle full power rounds. The double recoil springs are stiff and the slide is heavy. Bullets with exposed lead at the base will gunk up the gas system. Continuous shooting of premium hardcast hunting bullets even at max pressure will surely gunk up the gas system.

Also make sure your magazine is in proper working condition. I learned that only OEM mags are reliable. Those Promags magazines will give you headaches.

[timbo399]

I might have to find someone to buy hot reloads from, factory ammonia too expensive. I might clean it and relube it. Thanks

I think that was the issue w mine. I do not reload so I just tried running Magtech .44 mag FMJ- 50cents/round. Only gun I ever owned that jammed on me-- big thing was not going completely back into battery-- I think they just like ht loads.

Sold mine years ago but as always wish I had kept it. I've spent way more on match rifle ammo-- could've splurged on some higher quality .44 mag for it-- the recoil out of the DE is like shooting a 1911-- amazed me. Only if it would have worked!! But there are remedies for people more patience than me.

[82lightfighter]

The PMC works great in mine, I've also tried Buffalo Bore - expensive but cycled perfectly. The WWB, Magtech and Reminton JHPs rarely got through a magazine without a failure to return to battery or feed.

[Krissv]

I think that was the issue w mine. I do not reload so I just tried running Magtech .44 mag FMJ- 50cents/round. Only gun I ever owned that jammed on me-- big thing was not going completely back into battery-- I think they just like ht loads.

Sold mine years ago but as always wish I had kept it. I've spent way more on match rifle ammo-- could've splurged on some higher quality .44 mag for it-- the recoil out of the DE is like shooting a 1911-- amazed me. Only if it would have worked!! But there are remedies for people more patience than me.

It was defiantly frustrating, I didnt want to get rid of it. It has been my dream handgun to own for years and years. Luckily PCM and Magtech worked. I did not want to sell it.

[Krissv]

I think that was the issue w mine. I do not reload so I just tried running Magtech .44 mag FMJ- 50cents/round. Only gun I ever owned that jammed on me-- big thing was not going completely back into battery-- I think they just like ht loads.

Sold mine years ago but as always wish I had kept it. I've spent way more on match rifle ammo-- could've splurged on some higher quality .44 mag for it-- the recoil out of the DE is like shooting a 1911-- amazed me. Only if it would have worked!! But there are remedies for people more patience than me.

I was hoping LAX factory new and Freedom would work, they are around $.50 a round vs the $.70 I pay for magtech and PCM.

[Krissv]

Desert Eagles like full power ammo. You don't have to get the specialty max ammo loads, but the ammo can't be low pressure loads. I reload for my DEagle in 44 mag and most of the starting loads on published data are almost too weak to reliably cycle the action. My first DEagle was in 357 Magnum. I was very displeased with it expecting it to run with all types of ammo that will go bang in my revolvers. It sealed my belief in revolvers being the most reliable handguns especially when shooting Magnum hunting sidearms. The gas system of the DEagle is designed to handle full power rounds. The double recoil springs are stiff and the slide is heavy. Bullets with exposed lead at the base will gunk up the gas system. Continuous shooting of premium hardcast hunting bullets even at max pressure will surely gunk up the gas system.

Also make sure your magazine is in proper working condition. I learned that only OEM mags are reliable. Those Promags magazines will give you headaches.

Ive heard about those ammo messing up the gas chamber, not many FMJ on the market that will run through it. Magtech 240grn FMJ is the only one that cycled. The PCM is open at the nose so im not sure if it will cause issues. What do you think?