Which Sig P320?

[ap3572001]

What model of P320 do I order if I want the same gun as US Army picked ?

[Mytmoss]

Order from whom? All models of P320 are off roster so unless you are LEO you will not be able to order from anyone.

[Quiet]

What model of P320 do I order if I want the same gun as US Army picked ?

It's not commercially available yet.

Basically, it's a 9x19mm SIG P320C FDE with manual safety.

What's currently commercially available that could approximate the XM17 (SIG P320MHS) is the SIG P320C FDE.
Only difference is the lack of a manual safety and different style sights.

[Litespeeds]

You should place an order for a Sig P320 X5 and a CZ P-10. If you don't like one or both of those, I'd be more than happy to buy them from you.

[mjmagee67]

From what I have read the Army gun has a LCI. So if you what the Army gun you want a LCI.

[ap3572001]

From what I have read the Army gun has a LCI. So if you what the Army gun you want a LCI.

Hmmm. Don't want LCI or manual safety.

[Quiet]

Hmmm. Don't want LCI or manual safety.

Fun fact...

There are physical differences between a Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI) and a Chamber Load Indicator (CLI).

CA laws require a CLI, not a LCI.

All SIG P320 have a LCI and no SIG P320 have a CLI.

Starting with the Gen 2.5, all Glock pistols have a LCI.

[Lonestargrizzly]

Fun fact...

There are physical differences between a Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI) and a Chamber Load Indicator (CLI).

CA laws require a CLI, not a LCI.

All SIG P320 have a LCI and no SIG P320 have a CLI.

Starting with the Gen 2.5, all Glock pistols have a LCI.

Wrong. My Glock has no such thing.

[Quiet]

Wrong. My Glock has no such thing.

Glock LCI... (No Glock has a CLI)
(left) Does not have a LCI. (right) Has a LCI.

[Lonestargrizzly]

Glock LCI...
(left) Does not have a LCI. (right) Has a LCI.

Thats a nub.
LCI is the sharkfin on top of the shield.
Sometimes the glack nub is extended, sometimes it isn't.
But that's irrelevant because you can't even see it.

[tbc]

This "CLI" is probably just a made-up terminology from the CA politicians. Am I correct?

[ceedubG]

The Sig P320 with manual safety is not interchangeable with other modules. The whole point of the P320 is the ability to change... Thus the manual safety model (when it does come out) won't be very popular. Unless they are also going to make xchange kits that aren't already out.

OP: The only way to get a Sig P320 is through PTP. You can look through the marketplace here on Calguns. Prices are typically from $950 all the way up to $1,400. And, for some ridiculous reason, some people do pay $1,400 for a gun that retails for $595.

From the Sig website:

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/caliber-x-change-kit-p320-carry-40s-w-blk-14-rounds.html

The Xchange kit description explicitly states it's not compatible with the manual safety models.

"Not compatible with manual safety models of the P320."

[Quiet]

This "CLI" is probably just a made-up terminology from the CA politicians. Am I correct?

Yes and codified by CA laws [PC 16380]

All CLI are LCI, but only a few LCI are CLI.

LCI have been a standard feature on semi-auto pistols since the 1990s.
However, almost all of them do not meet the definition of a CLI.

Which is why there is two different terms.
Use the correct one, in order to avoid confusion.



Penal Code 16380

[mjmagee67]

Hmmm. Don't want LCI or manual safety.

I haven't seen one of the Army's P320 but one of the articles said "it has a big orange loaded chamber indicator". The new M&P2 in 5 inch has a LCI too. I wonder if that has to do with the Army trials?

[tbc]

Yes and codified by CA laws [PC 16380]



All CLI are LCI, but only a few LCI are CLI.



LCI have been a standard feature on semi-auto pistols since the 1990s.

However, almost all of them do not meet the definition of a CLI.



Which is why there is two different terms.

Use the correct one, in order to avoid confusion.







Penal Code 16380

Thanks Quiet for the clear explanation.