Hi Points

[bigthaiboy]

As a guy on a budget, the HP guns look attractive price wise.............................
I have heard some say look at the CZ, but where can I find them?

CZ-52 most likely. SOG has them for $150 plus transfer fees (($250-275 OTD). Fires a 7.62x25mm round, making it a lousy HD option. Over-penetration is almost a certainty, as hollow point ammo is almost non-existent. The other CZ option would be a CZ-82 in 9x18mm ($240 with 2 mags plus fees). Which ever way of these two recommendations, you are buying a used handgun with East European calibers with considerably more limited ammo options, than your standard "Western" (9x19mm, .40S&W, .45ACP, etc) calibers.