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  • #16
    sc870
    Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 444

    Originally posted by HopetonBrown
    You can get your tactical on here in the interim.



    After that class, go to the Defensive Shooting Club at Metcalf, and Action Pistol Club in South San Jose.
    Is the action pistol club also at metcalf? Or where specifically in south san jose. I was thinking of doing the bullseye pistol meet at Sunnyvale rod and gun but it's both at 25 yds and 50 yds only.

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    • #17
      sc870
      Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 444

      During my range trip last night, I would dry fire between mags and notice I was jerking/anticipating the shot. After correcting that error groups got better. But still not 2 inch groups.

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      • #18
        sc870
        Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 444

        Originally posted by HopetonBrown
        No.
        Thanks. I jus looked it up. Had no clue that range was there. So close.

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        • #19
          ninjawho?
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 649

          Damn tempting
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          Left Wing or right wing..argue all you want the flight plan stays the same.

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          • #20
            dragon7
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 576

            After shooting Glocks for 30 years and trying just about every mod possible including toying with different bullets and loads, I've never got the kind of accuracy your looking for OP. I've tried several big named match barrels and was dissatisfied. They tightened my groups slightly but not enough to justify their high price. What I experienced mostly with match barrels is plenty of FTF due the tight chambers. I've since gone back to the stock barrels.

            The one mod I think most benefits the Glock platform to improve accuracy is the trigger. Again improving the trigger by shortening pretravel, getting a crisper break, and a short reset can help your groupings on targets. The downside is that with modded triggers durability and reliability will come into question.

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            • #21
              BABUSA
              Member
              • Dec 2015
              • 245

              Trigger control is what your looking for, the glock barrels are fine. Upgrade the trigger and get some better sights...then practice practice practice...

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              • #22
                Robert1234
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 3080

                I've had mixed results with Glock barrels, but never have they been worse than about 4"@25 yards or so.

                I have a G17 that is more accurate wit the srock barrel, but that's the only one where a Storm Lake barrel didn't give great improvement.

                I changed a G35 to a Bar-Storm barrel just so I could shoot lead and a G21 to Storm Lake for the same reason.

                Is the barrel worth the money? I like to be able to hit a 6" plate @ 25 yards so to me yes. But a barrel may make no difference. Sometimes Glocks are more accurate stock.

                And yes to trigger work. I'm a fan of Ghost Rocket connectors. They allow you to minimize overtravel and have a very short reset trigger. Which is my preference.

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                • #23
                  Carcassonne
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4897

                  Originally posted by sc870
                  Do any of the match grade barrels put up significant results to justify the price $160+? I'm particularly looking at the wilson combat and the s3f solutions match grade barrel. Leaning towards the sf3 because they offer a black nitride barrel rather than jus stainless.

                  I'm asking this mainly because I can get 2 inch groups with my cz p01 and my sig 1911 from 7-10 yards. But with my g22 and my g19 its more around 5-6 inch groups.

                  I figured it's the polymer frame or maybe it's just me, but I've put thousands of rounds thru my glocks and I really like the way they feel. I just want a little more accuracy.

                  It is most likely NOT the gun. Have someone else shoot your gun to see if it is accurate, and clean the barrel if it isn't clean already.



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                  • #24
                    mjmagee67
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2771

                    I've always found it funny that people buy Glocks because they just work. Then they start changing all sorts of things like barrels, springs, and trigger stuff and then they wonder why it no longer runs like a Glock. I see more Glocks not running right or being worked on at USPSA matched than any other gun. No there are not more Glocks than any other brand.

                    If you can't shoot a 2 inch group at 10 to 15 yards with a stock Glock you need to stand in front of a mirror and do some soul searching. Spend money on ammo and range time not parts. Nothing funnier than a guy with a cool tricked out gun that can't hit the broad side of a barn.
                    Last edited by mjmagee67; 11-21-2016, 11:55 AM.
                    If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                    • #25
                      k1dude
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2009
                      • 15767

                      Polymer guns are harder to shoot well and are less forgiving than heavier steel guns.

                      It has to do with the weight of the gun versus the weight of the trigger pull. Throw in a flinch and everything is magnified.

                      Your technique needs to be improved. It's you, not the gun or the barrel. If you can shoot poly guns well, you can pretty much shoot any steel or alloy gun well.
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                      • #26
                        Robert1234
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3080

                        Originally posted by mjmagee67
                        I've always found it funny that people buy Glocks because they just work. Then they start changing all sorts of things like barrels, springs, and trigger stuff and then they wonder why it no longer runs like a Glock. I see more Glocks not running right or being worked on and USPSA matched than any other gun. No there are not more Glocks than any other brand.

                        If you can't shoot a 2 inch group at 10 to 15 yards with a stock Glock you need to stand in front of a mirror and do some soul searching. Spend money on ammo and range time not parts. Nothing funnier than a gun with a cool tricked out gun that can't hit the broad side of a barn.
                        We futz with them because like wverything built to a price point, they have plenty of room for improvement.

                        That said, my extensively altered Glocks run as well as stock versions. And the sights, trigger pull ald operation is better, smoother and more user friendly.

                        I put a camper shell on my truck as well. Floor mats too. And lititle skull bolts holding the license plate in place.

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                        • #27
                          mjmagee67
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2771

                          Originally posted by Robert1234
                          We futz with them because like wverything built to a price point, they have plenty of room for improvement.

                          That said, my extensively altered Glocks run as well as stock versions. And the sights, trigger pull ald operation is better, smoother and more user friendly.

                          I put a camper shell on my truck as well. Floor mats too. And lititle skull bolts holding the license plate in place.
                          Of course yours runs better..........

                          Did you change the engine, transmission, and steering components on your truck?? Changing the sights on a gun is akin to putting different tires on your truck.
                          If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                          • #28
                            Robert1234
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3080

                            Originally posted by mjmagee67
                            Of course yours runs better..........

                            Did you change the engine, transmission, and steering components on your truck?? Changing the sights on a gun is akin to putting different tires on your truck.
                            No, I didn't mess with the drivetrain. That would cost a lot of money for little in return. Pretty silly of you think about it.

                            But a Glock is cheap to upgrade/futz with, and the results are good for me. Smoother trigger, minimized overtravel, good sights and I can shoot lead bullets with it being the obvious ones. And no reliability issues for me over 15K rounds.

                            I'm not telling you to experiment with your gun or denigratinng you for not. Your toy, your choices.

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                            • #29
                              Robert1234
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3080

                              Originally posted by mjmagee67
                              Of course yours runs better..........

                              Did you change the engine, transmission, and steering components on your truck?? Changing the sights on a gun is akin to putting different tires on your truck.
                              Sights, springs, trigger connector and in some cases barrels. In Glocks there's not much else.

                              But if it matters, I've turned .45 Kimber into a nice .40 S&W gun (complete ramped barrel top end), buII'll two 2011 gus from 80% receivers, buit a Caspian High Cap in .40 cal from scratch, rebuilt hot rod cars (years ago when such things mattered to me), rebuilt differentials, transmissions, replaced clutches, done brake jobs, installed stereos and various other "feats of mechanical derring-do". I've overhauled 1200 psi boilers, steam turbine driven equipment and pneumatic control systems, as well as sewer pumps and water pumps ranging from 3 - 750 hp.

                              So I understand how things work. But thanks for clarifying the technical similarities of changing Glock sights to changing my car tires.

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