Can you make an AR Pistol featureless?

[meno377]

Won't this make it featureless?
Just get an afg instead of a vertical grip. It has no stock. Take off flash hider. Boom gtg.






*i am not a lawyer. This is an opinion and interpretation

Buying that magazine doesn't make it featureless, but makes it legal as it is now a fixed magazine. Since it's fixed, the "evil" features: (pistol grip, flash hider, collapsible stock) are now null.

Also another option: https://www.armaglock.com/shop/ And: http://www.bulletbutton.com/ The patriot mag release.

[Kwikvette]

AR Pistol follows hand-gun chart therefore "featureless" does not exist.

[Dumas1012]

are we looking at the same link? it's a magazine, that goes in through the top of the receiver...cant be removed without opening up (disassembling) the action (fixed magazine)

that gets you around 4

It's a toss up between the drop in magazine and the maglock. Both will work, just depends on if you want to drop or lift the magazine. Here are the videos for the lazies.

Franklin Armory drop in mag:




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[Euphoria526]

are we looking at the same link? it's a magazine, that goes in through the top of the receiver...cant be removed without opening up (disassembling) the action (fixed magazine)

that gets you around 4

Buying that magazine doesn't make it featureless, but makes it legal as it is now a fixed magazine. Since it's fixed, the "evil" features: (pistol grip, flash hider, collapsible stock) are now null.

Also another option: https://www.armaglock.com/shop/ And: http://www.bulletbutton.com/ The patriot mag release.

I'm agreeing with you guys. Maybe "featureless" shouldn't be the term I used. It'll make it compliant if you didn't want to register and own an ar pistol

[Maltese Falcon]

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf

So I get to # 16 in the flow chart for my AR pistol (started as single shot, now semi) and it appears my threaded barrel for the muzzle brake now needs to be pinned to be legal?

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[Donk310]

Yes, you CAN make your AR pistol featureless. The problem is you can't make your featureless AR pistol legal unless you fix the magazine, or register it.

[meno377]

I'm agreeing with you guys. Maybe "featureless" shouldn't be the term I used. It'll make it compliant if you didn't want to register and own an ar pistol

True.

[meno377]

Yes, you CAN make your AR pistol featureless. The problem is you can't make your featureless AR pistol legal unless you fix the magazine, or register it.

Featureless and legal aren't the same. Featureless would remove all the "evil" features similar to an AR 15 rifle with ONE exception. You can't remove the magazine well that is separate from the pistol grip. If you did, you would then have a permanent single shot pistol.

The separate magazine well is an "evil" feature on an AR Pistol. But again you can make it legal by making the magazine "fixed".

[Euphoria526]

So to be very clear, for myself, and everyone to get on the same page, An ar pistol will be legal and compliant (as far as we know) With a fixed magazine,correct?

[meno377]

So to be very clear, for myself, and everyone to get on the same page, An ar pistol will be legal and compliant (as far as we know) With a fixed magazine,correct?

From what I have read, yes. Fixed magazine meaning you have to open the action in order to take it out.

[meno377]

Here's an older thread that gets into making a grip on the magazine well. But if you do that, you would have to attach a new trigger for it to function which would no longer be an AR.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=509873

[fmunk]

Yes, an AR pistol can legally be made into a featureless RIFLE.

Not if it's already registered as a pistol.

[Euphoria526]

Not if it's already registered as a pistol.

Actually funny story. It can go from a pistol to a rifle, but not back to a pistol...

[E Michael]

This is what 'they' want, the laws are not written to be understandable, they will prosecute who they want. I would appreciate not being treated like a criminal.

[Jimi Jah]

The new law's regs and details are now being written. Who knows what the end result will be.

I have a 80% 7.5" pistol, engraved with all the stuff and anodized, it looks pro. I milled it on a CNC machine so it's perfect inside and out.

It has personnal information on it wouldn't be an item someone would probably want to buy unless they have the same name and town.

Can I register it as a RAW? Or do I have to play legal musical chairs with it? I'm not too keen on the Franklin mag, I don't want to wear out my lower from opening that every 10 rounds. I'd rather dump the mag and load ammo single shot though the ejection port.

Can I buy another 7.62x39 7.5" upper for it? Can I own two pistol uppers for one pistol lower? Can they be stored together? Can they be stored with other 16" AR's? I don't have an extra rifle upper laying around, all are attached.

Would it be better to sell the pistol upper and convert that lower to a rifle?
All options are on the table, I like the pistol but not enough to suffer for it.

I will be using it quite a bit before the end of the year, maybe my last blast with it.