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  • #31
    1911whore
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 2997

    I have owned both the Kimber and Springfield 9mm 1911s and Shot the Springfield heavily modified as my IDPA ESP gun for a few years, both are nice guns, both have their pluses and minuses, I am looking for a fixed sight springfield 9mm 1911 at the moment, they are harder to find and are a perfect base gun for the build I have had in my mind for a while.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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    • #32
      Dago Red
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 586

      I picked one up here used. With ice magwell, FO sights, vz grips. Have only shot it once and I loved it. Mill use it for steel challenge.

      Red

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      • #33
        IVC
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 17640

        Originally posted by cindynles
        There is a match at Pala this Saturday. Come out and give USPSA a try.
        I went to check out the steel match at Rainbow Range last month and planned to participate this coming weekend (everyone says it's a good starting match to get used to the format), but something came up and I'll be sailing over the weekend instead.

        How is Pala for first timers? There will be another match in a few weeks and I might check it out rather than wait another month for Rainbow Range.
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        • #34
          IVC
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 17640

          Thanks to everybody for sharing info on availability. I've checked my local Tuners and, while pretty well stocked, they didn't have one. I didn't go to Faith Armory since they tend not to have hard to find guns. I might drop by later in the week. In the meantime, I'll keep checking online places.
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          • #35
            IVC
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 17640

            Originally posted by Robert1234
            Before you buy a Springfield, check it out. Rack the slide, pull the trigger, feel it working.
            ...
            For what Springfield charges for them ($1,000.00+), you expect more.
            That was the idea - check out a SA so I can compare to the Kimber I just fired.

            Every company goes through periods of bad reputation and Kimber had its share of issues, but the 9mm I handled was really nice. I also like my Kimber 1911 in 10mm.

            Originally posted by Robert1234
            And shooting Single Stack Minor in USPSA isn't for everyone. Some do well, most do better shooting Major. If you find yourself shooting 95% A zone hits in major, try switching to see if you can shave some time using those two extra rounds in your stage planning while keeping your accuracy. It is tough. They are fun to shoot though.
            A few people mentioned it's "tough in minor" or it's "tough to shoot single stack." What is the problem? Too many good shooters? Too demanding?
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            • #36
              IVC
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 17640

              Originally posted by swimnicklim
              OP, if you're still in Temecula like your profile says, RifleGear is only like an hour away from you and they have 4 in stock right now.

              https://www.riflegear.com/p-6056-spr...pistol-ca.aspx
              Great catch - thanks. I just checked out the website and they are still there.

              I have to take care of some business in Irvine anyway, so I can stop by Rifle Gear.
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              • #37
                IVC
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 17640

                Originally posted by PolishMike
                Just remember its extremely difficult, although not impossible, to be competitive in USPSA with a 9mm single stack. I went that route when I first started and regretted it as soon as I got the scores for the first match.
                My idea is to go out, have fun, be safe and learn to shoot on the run and under stress. Initially I just want to build some muscle memory.

                I would expect that USPSA is like any other sport - there is an initial rapid improvement, then plateau, then details and practice start mattering and finally, to be truly competitive, one must devote a lot of time and effort for small systematic improvements in order to get into the upper tier.

                I'd be happy at the moment to start shooting on a regular basis and to become a competent shooter, not necessarily competitive. Once I get to the point where I can isolate problems and specific areas of improvement I can decide whether I want to spend the extra time and effort, or I'm content to go out and have fun.

                Is this about right?
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                • #38
                  Robert1234
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3081

                  Originally posted by IVC
                  That was the idea - check out a SA so I can compare to the Kimber I just fired.

                  Every company goes through periods of bad reputation and Kimber had its share of issues, but the 9mm I handled was really nice. I also like my Kimber 1911 in 10mm.



                  A few people mentioned it's "tough in minor" or it's "tough to shoot single stack." What is the problem? Too many good shooters? Too demanding?
                  When you shoot Single Stack Minor power factor in USPSA you are given two extra rounds but non-A zone hits lose more points than if you shoot Major power factor. To be competetive you need very few non-A zone hits.

                  Since the rules require 8 shots per shooting position max, you fave to be creative to gain an advantage with those extra two rounds while not dropping many points (non-A zone hits). It is challenging. Some stages lend themselves to this creativity, most don't offer enough opportunity to overcome the point per non A zone hit.

                  Hope this helps.

                  Note (not to OP): this is all paraphrased info, please don't NAZI up in me for minor detail omissions, I'm typing this on a phone and my calloused, fat thumbs weren't made for this.
                  Last edited by Robert1234; 10-05-2016, 8:30 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Robert1234
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3081

                    Please don't let anything b I've posted deter you from shooting a 9mm in Single Stack. It is a lot of fun and you can use the experience to up your game.

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                    • #40
                      Robert1234
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3081

                      Originally posted by IVC
                      My idea is to go out, have fun, be safe and learn to shoot on the run and under stress. Initially I just want to build some muscle memory.

                      I would expect that USPSA is like any other sport - there is an initial rapid improvement, then plateau, then details and practice start mattering and finally, to be truly competitive, one must devote a lot of time and effort for small systematic improvements in order to get into the upper tier.

                      I'd be happy at the moment to start shooting on a regular basis and to become a competent shooter, not necessarily competitive. Once I get to the point where I can isolate problems and specific areas of improvement I can decide whether I want to spend the extra time and effort, or I'm content to go out and have fun.

                      Is this about right?
                      That is exactly right. Good luck and have fun. Remember, it is just a game.

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                      • #41
                        cindynles
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2806

                        Originally posted by IVC
                        I went to check out the steel match at Rainbow Range last month and planned to participate this coming weekend (everyone says it's a good starting match to get used to the format), but something came up and I'll be sailing over the weekend instead.

                        How is Pala for first timers? There will be another match in a few weeks and I might check it out rather than wait another month for Rainbow Range.
                        The Rainbow match is a good starter match if you don't have a lot of experience drawing from a holster. The round count is pretty low (30 rounds for the entire match if I remember correctly) and there is no movement.

                        Pala is very welcoming for new shooters. The have matches on the 2nd and 4th Saturday of each month. The have USPSA and IDPA matches running at the same time (on different bays) so you can shoot either. They also have all steel matches on the 5th Saturday of each month.
                        "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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                        • #42
                          crufflers
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 12723

                          Originally posted by 1911whore
                          I have owned both the Kimber and Springfield 9mm 1911s and Shot the Springfield heavily modified as my IDPA ESP gun for a few years, both are nice guns, both have their pluses and minuses, I am looking for a fixed sight springfield 9mm 1911 at the moment, they are harder to find and are a perfect base gun for the build I have had in my mind for a while.
                          Sacramento area again, Cordova Shooting Center also has the Kimber 9mm. It has usually been in stock even when the Springfield Target sells out. Right now they have both. Kimber 9mm Stainless Target II - the price came down on that one a bit @ $899.

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                          • #43
                            IVC
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 17640

                            Originally posted by cindynles
                            The Rainbow match is a good starter match if you don't have a lot of experience drawing from a holster. The round count is pretty low (30 rounds for the entire match if I remember correctly) and there is no movement.
                            Just reposting for those in our area who are interested. Rainbow is the place to check out and see what it all looks like.

                            There is no movement and it's very low stress and quite friendly. Round count is about 5-6 per station and there are about 5-6 stations, so you're correct on the round count.

                            I went to watch last month with only ear and eye protection. It was very informative and I could've participated easily.

                            Originally posted by cindynles
                            Pala is very welcoming for new shooters. The have matches on the 2nd and 4th Saturday of each month. The have USPSA and IDPA matches running at the same time (on different bays) so you can shoot either. They also have all steel matches on the 5th Saturday of each month.
                            Good to hear. I'll mark my calendar for 22nd at 7:30 am when the signup starts so I have time to look around.

                            I was thinking about shooting CZ TS or Sig X5 in 9mm (both SA) or Tanfoglio Limited or a 1911 in .45. Any recommendation for the first match beyond just what I'm most comfortable with?
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                            • #44
                              IVC
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 17640

                              Originally posted by crufflers
                              Sacramento area again, ...
                              I'm in Temecula, half way between San Diego and Riverside. It's good info for those up north, though...
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                              • #45
                                cindynles
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 2806

                                Originally posted by IVC

                                I was thinking about shooting CZ TS or Sig X5 in 9mm (both SA) or Tanfoglio Limited or a 1911 in .45. Any recommendation for the first match beyond just what I'm most comfortable with?
                                Go with which ever one you have enough mags / mag pouches for. For single stack you are going to need at least 5 (6 or 7 is better) mags.
                                "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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