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  • gunprofit
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 557

    Glock Bulge Cases Quick Fix

    My son owns a Glock 36 (45ACP). He showed me his fired factory ammo cases were bulging. I have seen this numerous times with the 40 S&W caliber. Not so much with the 45 ACP caliber. So, I asked him when was the last time he changed the recoil main spring. Of course, he has not ever changed it since purchasing it 3 years ago. He decided to take my advice, changed the spring, and no more bulged cases.

    In the past, I have read threads where Glock owners brag about how they have never cleaned or performed any maintenance on their guns. I thought it would be a good idea to pass along the importance of doing some basic maintenance to the Glock owners that could prevent a case rupture and perhaps shooter injury.

    My son, now 39 years old, grew up in my gunshop/indoor shooting range. Whenever he was a bad boy, I made him clean the range rental guns. Needless to say, he cleaned lots and lots of guns. And, he knows he is suppose to clean, lube, and replace worn parts. How he ever fell into this Gocks don't need anything attitude, I will never know. LOL
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    ElDub1950
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2012
    • 5688

    What's the theory on how a weak recoil spring causes brass bulge? I can't connect the cause and effect.

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    • #3
      CWDraco
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 3359

      Originally posted by ElDub1950
      What's the theory on how a weak recoil spring causes brass bulge? I can't connect the cause and effect.
      I second that...

      the bulge is due to the small unsupported portion of the chamber....

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      • #4
        Robert1234
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 3078

        Originally posted by CWDraAnd
        I second that...

        the bulge is due to the small unsupported portion of the chamber....
        And was supposedly addressed by Glock. I've checked brass from my 2009 G35 and it shows no appreciable bulge.

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        • #5
          ElDub1950
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2012
          • 5688

          Originally posted by Robert1234
          And was supposedly addressed by Glock. I've checked brass from my 2009 G35 and it shows no appreciable bulge.
          Not sure when they did the redesign but I've have 4 .40 Glocks and 4 9mm Glocks since 2010 and reloaded a lot of both and never spotted any buldge.

          But even with an older barrel, still wondering how a weak recoil spring can add to the bulge problem.

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          • #6
            randomBytes
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1607

            I showed my g34 to glock amorer at a gssf match once - thinking it should be due for a new recoil spring...
            He tested it and said it was fine.
            I said ok - but that gun's had 20k rounds through it - he replaced the recoil spring ;-)

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            • #7
              gunprofit
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 557

              Here's a link to test your Glock to see if a recoil spring is in need of replacement.

              Toward the bottom of the article, they speak of the issues associated with weak recoil springs.



              The unseen looming danger is a gun whose slide moves out of battery during the trigger pull. This can cause light primer strikes. A weak recoil spring may allow the gun to fire out of battery which can allow the pressure that should be in the barrel and chamber to exit rearward, into the gun, causing a KB.

              I'm sure there are a lot of guys who will argue. My proof is that once a new recoil spring was installed in my son's gun, the bulges were eliminated.

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              • #8
                Robert1234
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 3078

                Originally posted by gunprofit
                Here's a link to test your Glock to see if a recoil spring is in need of replacement.

                Toward the bottom of the article, they speak of the issues associated with weak recoil springs.



                The unseen looming danger is a gun whose slide moves out of battery during the trigger pull. This can cause light primer strikes. A weak recoil spring may allow the gun to fire out of battery which can allow the pressure that should be in the barrel and chamber to exit rearward, into the gun, causing a KB.

                I'm sure there are a lot of guys who will argue. My proof is that once a new recoil spring was installed in my son's gun, the bulges were eliminated.
                If our gun is firing out of battery you have bigger problems than a weak recoil spring.

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                • #9
                  NapalmCheese
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5953

                  Originally posted by ElDub1950
                  What's the theory on how a weak recoil spring causes brass bulge? I can't connect the cause and effect.
                  Originally posted by CWDraco
                  I second that...

                  the bulge is due to the small unsupported portion of the chamber....
                  Originally posted by gunprofit
                  I'm sure there are a lot of guys who will argue. My proof is that once a new recoil spring was installed in my son's gun, the bulges were eliminated.
                  Originally posted by Robert1234
                  If our gun is firing out of battery you have bigger problems than a weak recoil spring.
                  The theory is that the weak recoil springs allows the action to unlock and the slide to start moving back before the cartridge develops enough pressure to obturate the chamber with the brass which leads to the brass partially backing out before expanding to obturate the chamber which leaves a good portion of the case head unsupported leading to bulged/smilied brass and lower velocities.

                  I don't know where I read about it being a major cause for smilies, but buffalo bore's website is where I read about in relation to velocity.
                  Heavy 10mm Field Proven pistol and handgun ammo. Maximum firepower bullets. Best ammunition for pistols and handguns for sale. Buffalo Bore. Strictly big bore. Strictly Business.


                  This glocktalk thread alludes to the breech unlocking too early as a cause of smilies: http://www.glocktalk.com/threads/a-t...rrels.1516057/

                  I don't know if any of this is true, but the idea that it could happen is certainly out there.
                  Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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                  • #10
                    meanrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 847

                    Weak springs create more time with the action open during cycling, and less resistance maintaining chamber pressure during ignition. They also allow a slide to bounce when it closes. Striker pistols get cocking issues too.

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                    • #11
                      Fishslayer
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13035

                      Originally posted by gunprofit
                      I'm sure there are a lot of guys who will argue. My proof is that once a new recoil spring was installed in my son's gun, the bulges were eliminated.
                      You'll get an argument around here if you said the sun will rise in the east tomorrow...

                      I sort my pickup brass by headstamp & occasionally find a .45 case with a square striker dimple & a bit of a bulge. Always puzzled on those.
                      "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                      You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                      You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                      Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                      Originally posted by redcliff
                      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                      • #12
                        G-Man WC
                        In Memoriam
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10991

                        If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
                        -Samuel Adams

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                        • #13
                          randomBytes
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1607

                          Originally posted by gunprofit
                          Here's a link to test your Glock to see if a recoil spring is in need of replacement.

                          Toward the bottom of the article, they speak of the issues associated with weak recoil springs.

                          Thanks that's different to the way the glock armor checks it, which was simply holding the gun vertically pulling the slide back a mm or so (there's a click when the barrel and slide unlock) and checking it returns to battery.

                          My recoil springs are all relatively new - couldn't tell the difference testing either way - holding the trigger rearwards presumably puts a little extra load on the spring though.

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                          • #14
                            mjmagee67
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2771

                            FWIW My G21 had more chamber support than my Kimber 1911!!!! Not sure about my Sig 1911. On the Kimber there is more case showing at the feed ramp area than my G21 and my G21 is a Gen2.
                            If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                            • #15
                              Johneracer
                              Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 293

                              Originally posted by Fishslayer
                              You'll get an argument around here if you said the sun will rise in the east tomorrow...

                              I sort my pickup brass by headstamp & occasionally find a .45 case with a square striker dimple & a bit of a bulge. Always puzzled on those.
                              Sun does not rise anywhere, earth spins and creates illusion of sun rising in the east......j/k

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