Can I purchase off-roster handgun from a friend from outside of CA?

[fifteen]

I'm looking to add the Walther PPK to my collection. Let's say my friend from out of CA has a PPK, if he visits CA, can we simply go to a FFL in CA and do a private party transfer? Thanks.

[plumbworker]

No. He needs to be a resident of this state.

[edgerly779]

Only if leo or certain military If civilian no. If he has valid ca picture id then yes..

[WolfHuntar]

What if the person is a family member gifting the firearm?

[SkyHawk]

I'm looking to add the Walther PPK to my collection. Let's say my friend from out of CA has a PPK, if he visits CA, can we simply go to a FFL in CA and do a private party transfer? Thanks.

Think about it - If it worked like that, there would effectively be no roster and no $1000 Glock 43s for sale here.

What if the person is a family member gifting the firearm?

Direct family only, meaning parent/grandparent/child/grandchild. Not aunt uncle brother sister cousin, not step parent or parent in law etc.

And the one in thirty rule applies for handguns when gifted from out of state.

[C.Bronson]

In CA...if you have to ask.
The answer is probably no.

[morrcarr67]

Only if leo or certain military If civilian no. If he has valid ca picture id then yes..

There is no exception to the roster for people in the military.

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[Air]

Probably your best bet would be finding a C&R PPK, then it would be roster exempt. Or hang and wait for one to come available locally to you. Either way, you are going to pay.

I have one, they are neat and all, but I rarely shoot it.

[Forcelite]

I was in the same boat, like so many here and wanted an off roster gun. The only reasonable, legal ways I found to get one is.
1) get your father , mother , grand father , or grandmother to gift you one ( no money can change hands )
2) purchase it from a private individual through a ffl transfer, this means you locate one for sale and meet at a ffl gun dealer and do the transfer paperwork .

Force

[Leadingall]

or...
3) move to a free state; where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. And live happily ever after.

[fifteen]

I might move out of state next year for graduate school. If I buy the PPK next year from out of state, I can bring it back to CA no problem?

[Treyzian]

I might move out of state next year for graduate school. If I buy the PPK next year from out of state, I can bring it back to CA no problem?

If you legally become a resident of that state, and a PPK is legal to purchase in that state, you can buy the PPK. Once you move back to CA, you can bring it with you.

But is a PPK worth buying and selling two homes?

[flhxxx]

If you legally become a resident of that state, and a PPK is legal to purchase in that state, you can buy the PPK. Once you move back to CA, you can bring it with you.

But is a PPK worth buying and selling two homes?

You would have to officially move out of state to the other state and officially move back. I wonder how this works from a registered assault weapon perspective. Owning a RAW adds a possible wrinkle to that idea..

[fifteen]

You would have to officially move out of state to the other state and officially move back. I wonder how this works from a registered assault weapon perspective. Owning a RAW adds a possible wrinkle to that idea..

What does "officially " move mean ? I will be renting an apartment in the new state with a lease agreement. Is that enough? Or do I need a drivers license from that state

[jeremiah12]

What does "officially " move mean ? I will be renting an apartment in the new state with a lease agreement. Is that enough? Or do I need a drivers license from that state

You will need to cut all ties to CA. That means you need to register your vehicle in the new state, get a DL in the new state, get a local banking account, register to vote, and every thing else a normal person does.

You will not return to CA over the summer breaks or other vacation breaks. Most importantly, you need to be financially self-sufficient and not receiving financial help from your parents or others that are CA residents. That means you also cannot be claimed as a dependent by someone who is a CA resident for income tax purposes.

The ATF says that while you are attending an out of state college, you are a resident of that state for gun buying purposes, and when you return to your home state you are a resident of that state for gun buying purposes.

Your problem is with CA law. It prohibits a CA resident from importing into this state any gun obtained out of state unless it is first delivered to a CA FFL and goes through the DROS process and 10 day waiting period. Handguns have to be on the roster. The 1 in 30 applies.

You can buy the PPK when you go to school out of state but if you maintain your CA residency, you cannot bring it back.