Please explain "great trigger"

[SonofWWIIDI]

It depends on how it feels to you.

I have fired an XD-9 with the stock trigger, and a powder river kit installed. The PR is a great trigger compared to the stock one.



I'm gonna go with most stock triggers are crappy to mediocre out of the box. Some can be helped with a little effort ( i.e. glock .25 trigger job) and some might need a whole new system.

YMMV

[Robert1234]

I used to think a 1911 trigger was 'great' until I pulled my 686 Competitor in single action. Actually, I still think they are, but there's a level above...which is 'excellent.'

If you pull a 1911 trigger REALLY REALLY slow, you'll get some creep, it's just the way it is. Normal use will result in non-felt creep. My 686, pulling as slow as I can, has absolutely no creep. Breaks like a thin diamond rod For comparison...the 1911s I'm talking about are my Baer PII with a 3.5# trigger job and my Wilson CQB Light Rail.

As far as others mentioning the CZ Tac Sport...I found it way too light and it definitely creeps (the one I pulled anyway). The TS isn't mean for slow pulling though, it's for fast shooting so you won't notice it anyway.

In stock form, don't even mention the Glock having a 'great' trigger, if you do, it just shows that you've not shot much else. The only good thing I can say about a Glock stock trigger is the reset, which I enjoy very much. I just wish the opposite direction was just as good

A trigger job can mean many things. Smoothing the action, lightening the pull weight, fixing creep, fixing staging, etc.

I had a 629, same experience. Trigger in SA would let off with no creep. Felt like it was about 2 lbs. I put a trigger gauge on it, 4.5. I also have an old Cold Army Special revolver (similar to a Police Positive) with a horrendously heavy DA trigger pull, but in SA it let off with zero creep and feels like it's about 2.5 lbs. When tested with a digital trigger pull gauge it reads at 5 lbs.

CZ Tactical Sports do nothing for me. The triggers feel gritty and cheap (not sure how to quantify that statement, but they don't feel "good" like a well tuned 1911 trigger). I'm sure there's ways to make them better, but I don't really care for CZs so why bother.

I've worked at getting the creep out of 1911 triggers, but if you pay attention and pull the triggers as slow as possible, you find the littlest bit of creep. Perceptible only if you're looking for it, but there. Not sure how revolvers manage to get rid of the creep, but they do.

[1911whore]

AHH, great triggers..,my forte....It is actually very simple and has been stated here previously....

A GREAT trigger is simple. Little take up or smooth take up in pistols with long DA pulls, smooth in its motion, clean, repeatable break weight. Crisp reset. PERIOD! It does not matter if it is light or heavy as long as it is consistent. Your finger can get used to consistent, your brain can too...you can not get used to inconsistent or gritty, chattery movement.. If it does the same thing, the same way, every time, you will shoot it well, so long as YOU do the same thing, the same way, every time. if it alters the way it works with each pull, you will alter how you pull it, it is as easy as that.

Trigger job defined..
A trigger job is defined by adjusting the break weight and cleanliness of the break of the trigger.

Action job defined...
An action job smooths out ALL bearing surfaces involved in the felt action of the trigger for a clean pull, consistent break, and crisp reset...I.E. more is involved in an action job.

[hambam105]

Before you get to know what a great trigger means there must be on consensus on the words,

Take-Up
Travel
Creep,
Release

Good Luck.

[Gene1986]

A great trigger is different to me then it is too you. A great trigger for me is something I can shoot consistently without flinching. Usually that involves lower weight triggers without almost any take up. Personally I have work done on all my triggers in every gun I own except the ones that are double action only. My zev tech glock has an amazing trigger which is tuned for my liking.

I would recommend going out and renting different guns and trying their triggers. For the 100 bucks you can go to oak tree or LAX firing range and feel 20 different guns.

[burr2of4]

A great trigger is one that's consistent. It should feel the same every time you squeeze it. It should be a weight that you are comfortable with. A great trigger will help you to make great shots consistently. If you and your gun can consistently shoot at a level your happy with then theres no need to modify your gun but if you want to improve your shooting and your trigger is not consistent youll probably never shoot to your full potential with that gun. Aim small miss small.

[Thefeeder]

It depends on how it feels to you.

I have fired an XD-9 with the stock trigger, and a powder river kit installed. The PR is a great trigger compared to the stock one.



I'm gonna go with most stock triggers are crappy to mediocre out of the box. Some can be helped with a little effort ( i.e. glock .25 trigger job) and some might need a whole new system.

YMMV

If I get to make it down to one of your monthly shoots....I'll bring some of my o' High Standard pistols....very nice triggers out of the box

[Shrubmaster]

Two triggers that shocked me:
My cz p09 is sloptastic, long light pull that butts up to a heavy pull and finally to a somewhat consistent break.
My yugo m57 has an incredible trigger for a $200 gun! Almost match trigger like. Best buy ever.

[9M62]

It's been said a thousand times so far, but I'll say it another time:

A good trigger is a few things to most people, some differ.

1) Smooth.
2) Clean break. As in, it doesn't get "harder" just before it breaks.
3) Allows you to maintain sight picture/alignment while pulling (so, often that means somewhat light).
4) A very obvious and repeatable sear reset.

I like some of my double action semi-auto's triggers just as much if not more than some of my single action triggers. So trigger pull length isn't always an indicator of "good" trigger. It certainly is easier to shoot a gun with a shorter trigger pull, but that doesn't mean the longer pull is bad.

Case in point: My Kahr CM9 or Kimber Solo has an amazing trigger. It's not the lightest, it's long, but it's extremely smooth with a very clean break. I prefer that over any GLOCK trigger out of the box.

[SonofWWIIDI]

If I get to make it down to one of your monthly shoots....I'll bring some of my o' High Standard pistols....very nice triggers out of the box

Sweet!

[Lead Waster]

The worse of a shooter you are, the better the trigger you need.

[JDMIS300]

The 1911 triggers are both factory stock. The DW is smooth and has a great reset with a break point of snapping a glass rod. The TRP is OK (better than the MilSpecs and the Rock Islands I've had) but not as refined as the DW.

My experience has been the same with my Valor and Heritage as compared to every TRP I've fired. I've found some TRP triggers to be noticeably better than other TRP triggers however.

[newbie1234]

It a personal reference. For me a great trigger are:
- When I pull, I did not jerk (move) the pistol.
- I know exactly when it bang.

[hambam105]

It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to call a FUBAR trigger.

[sc870]

A 1911 trigger.

+1 but mine is a sig, if that matters. Love it. Dry fired my cz p01 over a 1k times. Love it. Also did an apex trigger kit on my shield and I think it's great. Those are all great triggers to me. Probably in that order.

A great trigger to me would be lightER, smoothER, and shortER. Don't forget crispiER.