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  • beachtech
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 287

    Please explain "great trigger"

    What exactly does it mean? A "great trigger" seems to be VERY subjective. Some people say that Glocks have "great triggers", and others say Glocks have awful triggers.

    I have shot a lot of guns in my life, and only two have memorable triggers: a friend's S&W 44 mag (629 if I remember correctly)-because it had a trigger so light that I simply placed my finger on the trigger and it went off. The other was the trigger on my factory 10/22-it feels like they didn't polish the metal surfaces on the trigger parts and just feels awful (after using other 10/22, I realize this is normal for that model.)

    Please explain what it is, and when a "great trigger" is important and when it is not (competition, hunting, SD, etc.). And what does a "trigger job" do and what does it accomplish (lighter trigger, smoother stroke, shorter stroke, etc.)
  • #2
    BigStiCK
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3796

    I think what they mean is, if its not a Glock trigger, then its a great trigger.


    Very subjective, but the trigger is your most important interface with your weapon. A 'Great' trigger, in my opinion, is consistent & easy to anticipate. You know when it will release & reset, but without actively having to think about it. Keep in mind, ALOT of it has to do with the shooter. There is a youtoob vid of Mac from the Military Arms Channel interviewing Jerry Miculek on the topic of the Tavor. When Mac mentions the Tavor's mediocre trigger, Miculek responds that it really aint that bad because he is used to practicing with long double-action revolver triggers. He's learned to manipulate that system to perfection.
    Last edited by BigStiCK; 07-31-2016, 11:53 AM.
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    • #3
      desertjosh
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2011
      • 5749

      No creep, short pull, surprisingly crisp break. The 2 lb range seems to be my sweet spot. This is for a bench rest gun. HD or CCW guns should have a harder pull IMO
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      • #4
        jjs1025
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 338

        beachtech,
        I think a 'great trigger' is up to who's pulling it! Everyone has there own opinion. If I shot a a S&W 44 mag and "I simply placed my finger on the trigger and it went off" that would DEFINITELY not be for me, but maybe for you or others. If the trigger was so great, it would not be a "629 if I remember correctly", believe me I would REMEMBER!
        Just saying,

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        • #5
          tbc
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2011
          • 5955

          A 1911 trigger.


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          • #6
            perpetual otter
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2007
            • 5093

            In a nutshell:

            A great trigger is one that is set up exactly to how the individual likes their triggers. I love the 1911 trigger but the difference between my Dan Wesson trigger to my SA TRP is virtually worlds apart.

            My Apex'd trigger on my M&P is pretty amazing too.

            It depends on the individual.
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            • #7
              Erion929
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 4706

              Originally posted by ArkinDomino
              In a nutshell:

              A great trigger is one that is set up exactly to how the individual likes their triggers. I love the 1911 trigger but the difference between my Dan Wesson trigger to my SA TRP is virtually worlds apart.

              My Apex'd trigger on my M&P is pretty amazing too.

              It depends on the individual.


              Can you elaborate? Are they both stock.....or tuned? What are the differences and which do you like?

              Thanks for any info
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              • #8
                _TomT_
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 3354

                To me if I can pick up a gun, and dry fire it one handed with the piece of brass balanced on the front sight not falling off means that gun has a "good enough" trigger.

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                • #9
                  BoJackUSMC
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 7091

                  For factory stock trigger.. hard to beat 1911, VP9, and PPQ.

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                  • #10
                    MosinVirus
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 5282

                    When people talk about triggers they are talking about trigger pulls. To me a great trigger (and trigger pull) is one that is:

                    1. Consistent
                    2. Medium to short travel
                    3. Smooth, without feeling steps or rough spots
                    4. Crisp breaking
                    5. Surprising every time.

                    And if we are talking about triggers:

                    Wider
                    Flatter
                    Serrated.
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                    • #11
                      perpetual otter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 5093

                      Originally posted by Erion929
                      Can you elaborate? Are they both stock.....or tuned? What are the differences and which do you like?



                      Thanks for any info


                      The 1911 triggers are both factory stock. The DW is smooth and has a great reset with a break point of snapping a glass rod. The TRP is OK (better than the MilSpecs and the Rock Islands I've had) but not as refined as the DW.
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                      • #12
                        Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 6504

                        The difference between a good trigger and a great trigger is all in how you use it.
                        One thing im trying to learn on my pistols is follow through. Riding the trigger to the forward position instead of just pulling.
                        Squeeze in, ride out.

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                        • #13
                          ElDub1950
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 5688

                          As BigStiCK said, a great trigger would have to be consistent. If it's consistent, regardless of the other qualities, you can learn to shoot it well.

                          Beyond that, I think you'd have to compare triggers based on categories of guns. Comparing a Glock trigger to a 1911 trigger is nearly meaningless. Similarly, a great trigger for a carry gun is going to be very different than a great trigger in any well tuned competition gun (at least for most people).

                          IMHO everything else is just personal preference, depending on the type of gun you're using.

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                          • #14
                            IVC
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 17621

                            "Great" is application-specific.

                            I have a "great" Timney trigger on Remington 5R that is so light you really don't touch it until you have acquired your target, but it wouldn't do for anything other than benchrest shooting.

                            Another example are factory triggers on Kahr and Kimber Solo - both are "great triggers" because they are smooth and consistent, but they are intentionally long, have virtually no stacking but some overtravel. They are "great" for a self defense gun that is carried with one in the chamber.

                            Then there are 1911-s with "great triggers" where there is no pickup or overtravel and weight can be adjusted. The tradeoff is that they cannot be carried in condition-0.

                            A better question would be "what is an awful trigger" - a trigger that doesn't surve any purpose well.
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                            • #15
                              saudadeii
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 3451

                              Let your own finger be the judge.
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