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  • BrotherSharp
    Junior Member
    • May 2016
    • 87

    HK P2000. a bad start....

    So i finally got my first firearm..The HK p2000. Very excited. But 1st time at the at the firing range I experience numerous FTE instances with every mag. Sometimes in the middle but almost always on the very last round.


    Here is a time lime of how things came to pass...please let me know where I went wrong...

    Following various youtube videos...

    First thing i did when I got the gun was to strip the Factory oil.

    I took al the whole gun apart and dosed it with rubbing alcohol.

    Then I got some fireclean and aid on a nice thick coat and left it overnight. The next morning I took some patches and wipe everything down...

    Possible too much and some people told me the gun looked a bit dry when inspecting...


    I had purchased the ammo provided at FT3 tactical. They make their own ammo and I am told everything is is new. I went through 100 rounds that day. When it fire correctly it was great. super accurate. But I am very frustrated over the FTE..which often leads to jams as well..


    I had a few other more experienced shooters try it out and the same thing happened. But less frequently then when I did it. Limp wrist? I don't quite understand that. But i am new so i can fully accept its my skill. In fact i hope its me and not the super expensive HK i just bought.

    Since that first range visit, I have purchased quit a bit of remanufactured ammo form freedom munitions..115gr and 124gr.

    and I also picked up a couple boxes of Blazer Brass to see if that does the trick.


    I have left the slide back in a locked position for about a week and put more fire clean residue in the internal grooves and barrel so it appears to have the small but even layer of "wetness".

    If there anything else I am missing..I am thinking if this next trip doesn't go well i need to send this gun into HK for an evaluation.


    What does you guys think?
  • #2
    LeadFarmer74
    Veteran Member
    • May 2015
    • 3105

    I think you need more range time and ammo through the gun. Not saying you are the problem but since it's your first gun that might be a start. Since you bought more ammo try those rounds. It could be the gun but further evaluation might be needed. Try a different grip maybe. Don't get discouraged, you will figure it out.

    Welcome to the forum by the way.
    Last edited by LeadFarmer74; 07-29-2016, 11:56 PM.
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    • #3
      tenclip
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 245

      If the gun is new, it is often a stiff over-sprung recoil spring and tight tolerances that demand a really firm purchase on the gun until things relax a bit. Hold it really well and shoot NATO 124 or hot defensive rounds to relax and open things up. That is what the recoil spring is sprung for at a minimum. A recoil spring does not relax bring being slide locked, it relaxes through heat and cycles. Racking the slide 50 times alone will do more than a week of being locked back.
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      • #4
        emulex81
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 74

        My guess would be that those new boxes of blazer brass you won't have a problem anymore. Can't say for sure but I would lean towards the ammo, make sure to buy a new box of brand name ammo not reloads and see if that helps

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        • #5
          BrotherSharp
          Junior Member
          • May 2016
          • 87

          Thank you. I noticed it did happen a lot less with the other people but it was still quite frequent. Prior this this trip I did go on a desert trip and tried a several glocks and a vp9..i didn't experience any issues with those...

          The slide feels normal but maybe a bit stiffer for what i can vaguely recall.

          What's the deal with "Nato Spec". What the difference between those and the ones i bought. They are both brass and have the same grain options. I hope Blazing brass does the trick...it looks the same as the Freedom munitions.

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          • #6
            BrotherSharp
            Junior Member
            • May 2016
            • 87

            Originally posted by tenclip
            ...Racking the slide 50 times alone will do more than a week of being locked back.
            ahhhhhhh thanks for the head up.

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            • #7
              LeadFarmer74
              Veteran Member
              • May 2015
              • 3105

              Originally posted by BrotherSharp
              What's the deal with "Nato Spec". What the difference between those and the ones i bought. They are both brass and have the same grain options. I hope Blazing brass does the trick...it looks the same as the Freedom munitions.
              NATO ammo will be a higher pressure then most regular range ammo. It's used by the military in European countries. Blazer brass is good range ammo though.
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              Originally posted by Click Boom
              I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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              • #8
                MontClaire
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 4859

                NATO 124gr is made with submachine guns in mind for specific military and law enforcement applications. Hence it sports more pressure than your regular US commercial market 9mm 124gr ammo. It's perfectly fine to use in handguns but prepare for a recoil. Maybe that's exactly what you need to run through your P2000. Few hundred rounds should do it. By the way excellent choice. Once the hiccups are gone it will last forever. Congratulations.

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                • #9
                  johnking
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 530

                  Shoot some +p. Sound like weak ammo. The new spring may cause it.

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                  • #10
                    Rigma
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 988

                    I'm sorry to hear of your experience. My P2000 has yet to have a FTE, but is just south of 2k rounds. I prefer to feed it factory 124gr, and have had no issues with 5 different brands of 115gr factory, 2 brands of 147gr subsonic, my preferred 124gr HP, and the last of some 115 gr reloads.

                    Try eliminating the reloads to narrow the possible source. I had no issues with the 500 Blazer Brass 115gr I ran though it.
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                    • #11
                      smak28
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4120

                      I'm taking an educated guess that it's the ammo because I've never heard of the ammo manufacturer name. Try brand name factory new ammo and see if that helps. I'm guessing it will minimize, if not eliminate, the problem. However, you should always break it in with about 500 rounds of standard pressure ammo or about 200 rounds of NATO rounds. Also make sure you are not limp wristing. It will run flawlessly.
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                      • #12
                        maidenrules29
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 286

                        HK springs are stiff out of the box. But if you have it lubed correctly and run some +P through it you should be fine. BTW, who told you to use rubbing alcohol on your internals? Punch that person in the face.

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                        • #13
                          jj19
                          Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 194

                          I never break in a new handgun with reloads. In the past I have only experienced stove piping due to underlubrication and sometimes my grip. Hope this helps.

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                          • #14
                            static2126
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 5619

                            Why are you using cheap ammo? This is your problem, not the gun

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                            • #15
                              farmerjoe
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1014

                              +1 for ammo
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