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  • #16
    BigPimping
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 21457

    I would take the 9mm myself. Better suited to that round.
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    • #17
      geoint
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 4385

      I love my 1911 and Glock 30's but I wouldn't CCW a 45. If Open Carry was legal I might carry a 45 but for concealment, I stick to 9 or 38/357
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      • #18
        shakyshoot
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 1142

        Originally posted by Tovarish
        Silly gun. The barrel is too short for most .45 hollow points to work as intended. Such a small gun needs to be in 9mm or smaller. Save your envy for something better.
        Generations have sworn by 2" 38 Specials for carry, pushing a 158 gr bullet at 800 fps tops. Now suddenly a 230 gr slug at the same velocity is "silly? There are plenty of HP's that will work fine at those speeds. Check youtube videos for "45 short barrel expansion" for some evidence of that. Will they expand perfectly every time in every situation? No, but no bullet does. And consider that the size of the .45 hole is ALREADY almost the size of a decently expanded 9mm or .38. I really don't think the shorter barrel is any more of a liability in .45 than it is in 9mm.

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        • #19
          VintageDUG
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 834

          Originally posted by Capybara
          Even if S&W makes one, you're never getting it unless you become a cop or leave Kalifornistan. They will be right over the border in Havasu and Vegas gun shops, taunting you.

          Or...............

          Get one for Christmas from your loving daughter who lives in Washington.

          You can come by and shoot it if you like. Or my Ported PC Shield or my 22 Compact M&P.
          Originally posted by Munk
          This is akin to saying that the silver lining of being raped is, "hey, at least you're getting laid."

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          • #20
            Capybara
            CGSSA Coordinator
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2012
            • 15389

            Originally posted by ArkinDomino
            Did you read my post?
            Yes, I too had never heard of one, I thought it was something new coming out?
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