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  • undyingpirate
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3

    DOJ wont release my firearm

    Hey everyone,
    My name is Sean and this is my first post here on calguns. So, after 10 LONG days, I go to the gun shop to pick up my new Ruger Super Blackhawk. I currently own two shotguns and two rifles that were bought all legally at gun shops, DROS'd, waited my ten days and picked them all up no problem. So I finally decided to buy my first handgun. Well anyway, when i show up they tell me there's a problem, they cant release my gun to me. WTF!!! They show me a letter from the DOJ saying basically that either the purchaser of the gun is prohibited from purchasing a handgun, or the gun has been reported stolen. It's a brand new gun from the factory so it can't be stolen, so apparently I'm ineligible to own a handgun? The only crime i've been convicted of in my life is a skateboarding ticket I got when I was 15. So could this be a case of mistaken identity? The gun shop guys told me not to worry and just call the number on Monday, because it happens every once in a while they say. The guy who helped me fill out my paperwork told me NOT to put down my social security number, but now i wish i did. I am so incredibly pissed of right now that I'm not actually typing, I'm punching my keyboard. So anyway, has this happened to anyone here before? And if it has, what was the problem and what can I expect? Thanks in advance for any responses.
    -SEAN
  • #2
    Shane916
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 5004



    But yes call the number.
    Last edited by Shane916; 01-17-2009, 3:45 PM.

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    • #3
      sorensen440
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2007
      • 8612

      This may sound like a stupid question but how old are you ?
      "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        Fjold
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 23047

        Call on Tuesday, they'll probably be closed for Martin Luther King Jr Day.
        Frank

        One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




        Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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        • #5
          jimrod
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 154

          In cases when your name and profile info is close to another individual that is on file as prohibited from owning a handgun, your social security number will provide additional information that can help the DOJ properly identify you. That is why the DROS form asks you to provide a SS number - however it is also identified as optional on the form. I alway provide it for this reason as I have a very common last name and have had issues in the past where my DROS got held up. Now I ALWAYS provide my SS number and have not had a problem since (going on 20 DROS's now). Good luck.

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          • #6
            undyingpirate
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3

            Originally posted by sorensen440
            This may sound like a stupid question but how old are you ?
            I'm 23

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            • #7
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              Some people would rather deal with the possibility of having a delayed DROS then to provide an SS number on a form that it isn't required on to help minimize identity theft.

              edit: and there isn't even a spot for the SSN on the DROS. I've never had a clerk ask for it when filling out the DROS, and there isn't a spot for it on the copy of the DROS I received. There is a spot for the SSN on the 4473, but that is for the feds, not CA.

              Does CADOJ call up the dealer and ask if the buyer put down an SSN on the 4473 if they have a problem determining who it is?
              Last edited by ke6guj; 01-17-2009, 4:06 PM.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                Tarn_Helm
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 2126

                Welcome to the nightmare.

                Originally posted by undyingpirate
                I'm 23
                Welcome to the sad, weird world of firearms regulation in a country whose Supreme Court upholds, in the name of "reasonable regulation," infringement of rights which the Second Amendment says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

                Here is a link to a good, educational DVD for you to begin with by a pro-Second Amendment law expert (David Hardy):
                In Search of the Second Amendment


                Never give up the fight to exercise your lawful rights!
                "The Religion of Peace": Islam: What the West Needs to Know.

                America is Not a Democracy

                ". . . all [historical] experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms
                [of governmental abuses and usurpations] to which they are accustomed."
                Decl. of Indep., July 4, 1776

                NRA Benefactor/Life Member; Lifer: CRPA, GOA, SAF & JPFO

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                • #9
                  rkt88edmo
                  Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 10062

                  When they answer the phone be sure to say, "YAAR! Give me my pistol matey!"

                  J/K, hope a simple phone conversation clears it up.

                  I've been told by FFLs not to worry about my social - but I'm in the DOJ DBs in so many ways I don't care and I'd never want to be disappointed on happy handgun pickup day like the OP
                  If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
                  Use the goog to search calguns

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                  • #10
                    JDay
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19393

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    Some people would rather deal with the possibility of having a delayed DROS then to provide an SS number on a form that it isn't required on to help minimize identity theft.
                    You can always use your tax id number in place of your SSN on any form that asks for it.
                    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                    • #11
                      Echidin
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 3072

                      Sorry to hear that. I know how upset I was when I accidentally showed up a day early to pick up a gun and realized it wouldn't be released until the next day, so I can only imagine how you must feel right now.

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                      • #12
                        Kruzr
                        In Memoriam
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1751

                        The optional SS number is for the Federal form, the 4473. Your SS does not go on the DROS input sheet. Your Calif. DL/ID is your identifier number on the DROS. You would get the same response even if you put it on the 4473 since that stays at the FFL.

                        The OP needs to call to clear it up. In addition to similar names, an unrecorded change of address is a very common cause of denial.

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                        • #13
                          jamesob
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4821

                          i alway put my ss number for that exact reason. a friend of mine got denied because the doj thought he was somebody else when nhe didn't put his ss nnumber.

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                          • #14
                            walter
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1044

                            do you have any tickets?
                            WTB:
                            PW9142LP
                            SA GI 1911 Champion/Commander All Steel

                            Originally posted by tonelar
                            my recurring gun dream is one where I'm trading shots with BGs and my thompson is only a semi... oh wait, that's not a dream, that's California.

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                            • #15
                              tankerman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 24240

                              Originally posted by Fjold
                              Call on Tuesday, they'll probably be closed for Martin Luther King Jr Day.
                              Probably be closed on Tuesday too, for Barack Hussein Obama Day.

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