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Old 01-16-2009, 9:33 AM
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Hi fellas, I am new to guns, new to calguns.net
Glad I found this forum.
Here's my problem: I went and paid for my first gun and I'm still in the 10-day waiting period. Gunshop called me and told me that DOJ puts this transaction on hold or it has been delayed. I asked why, they couldn't tell me. So, they gave me a phone number to call DOJ (916-621-2263) and ask why. When I called, a lady picked up and she took my name and phone # and said that she will route that information to somebody who has access to record of sales, personal info, etc. I haven't gotten a call from DOJ since.
Anybody else with similar experience? Do they ever call back or they deny the purchase after a while?
Thanks for any suggestions and answers.

P.S. I don't have any convictions, indictments, felonies, etc.

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Old 01-16-2009, 9:37 AM
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If you have a common name, then there may be someone with your same name that may be prohibitied from owning a gun.

Happens with the NICS check all of the time.
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If you have a common name, then there may be someone with your same name that may be prohibitied from owning a gun.

Happens with the NICS check all of the time.
Hey Tony, thanks for the quick answer. I have very very uncommon non-American name, peculiar to only one small country in the world
I think that's not the case.
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Call back & make sure you get to talk to the (one) person who is handling your hold. They will tell you what information they need & how long they -& you- will wait for it. Keep that name & number because that person is the one who will release the hold, no one else will be in a position to do so.
My first pistol took 50+ days of waiting. I tried not to call more than once a week for an update. When the person working on my papers went on vacation it set the clock back even further. Ended up getting a call from the gun shop the day it was released anyway. A little trouble there because my DROS had expired at that point, but a quick call cleared that up. I did ask the DOJ if I could get the 10 day waiting period waived for my next 4 guns because I had waited so long.... they didn't get it.
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Maybe your name is on some terror watch list.
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Hey Tony, thanks for the quick answer. I have very very uncommon non-American name, peculiar to only one small country in the world
I think that's not the case.
Maybe DOJ is wondering why "Benedict, Pope" is trying to buy a gun?

Actually, I wouldn't just wait for them to call back. I think I'd give them a reasonable amount of time, maybe 2 days, then follow up with another call. I don't know if you're able to speak with the same person, but that might also help so you don't have to start the explanation from step one.
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IMHO, It might be the Size of the City you are in and the number of people buying Handguns.....now that NOBAMA is in Office!!

The shelves at the Gun stores around here are about empty!!
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Hmmm, I wonder if other "first time" purchases are being put on hold??

I smell something fishy, and its coming from DOJ.
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Hey Tony, thanks for the quick answer. I have very very uncommon non-American name, peculiar to only one small country in the world
I think that's not the case.
Not "Bin Laden", right?

I.E. Yemen = small country with names peculiar to just it


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I had CADOJ put a rifle I had traded for on hold, actually they just enied me I think. They were actually very helpful and let me know if was an unpaid speeding ticket in nowhere AZ that I had forgotten about. Paid he ticket the next day and called the DOJ girl that was working on it for me. She immediately called the court in AZ to verify that I had paid the icket and released the rifle the same day.

BTW, she was really funny and called me a "once a month'er" and said pretty much everyone in the office had approved me at one time or another. She went above and beyond what I expected. Can you believe I'm saying good things about CADOJ.
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so a minor traffic offense in another state can cause you to be denied?
that's f'd up
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:06 AM
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To the guys trying to be funny with my name and country - no, my name is not Obama nor Bin Laden; I'm a Christian from an European not-in-terrorist-list country, not Middle Eastern.

To all the others that are trying to help - thanks! This is invaluable information you're giving.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:07 AM
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so a minor traffic offense in another state can cause you to be denied?
that's f'd up
Yep. It was UNPAID tho, I just tossed it in the glove box nd forgot about it. The little city issued a bench warrant and that's what f'ed up the DROS. Funny thing is I bought or PPT'd maybe 10 guns in between the warrant being issued and CADOJ getting wind of it.
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It happened to me. They did call me back. It was something minor and proceeded to finish out the time. Try them back. If you do not have a record then it should not be any kind of a big problem.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:41 AM
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To the guys trying to be funny with my name and country - no, my name is not Obama nor Bin Laden; I'm a Christian from an European not-in-terrorist-list country, not Middle Eastern.

To all the others that are trying to help - thanks! This is invaluable information you're giving.
don't take it personally, some people here just like to poke fun

so from what the others have said it don't sound that uncommon.
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So what is the threshold and who sets it with respect to an offense triggering a DOJ denial? If a sheriff gives me a fix it ticket when I'm driving through Delight, Arkansas and I don't pay - no gun for me? Is there any listing of what triggers a denial? Anything to prevent some gov't official from deciding a bad credit report, divorce or losing your job after 20 years should trigger a denial?
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so a minor traffic offense in another state can cause you to be denied?
that's f'd up
ATF Form 4473 Question 11d: "Are you a fugitive from justice"

Now that they are linking many government databases to BG checks, more of these are going to show-up no matter how minor.
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Hmmm, I wonder if other "first time" purchases are being put on hold??

I smell something fishy, and its coming from DOJ.
Are you seeing a pattern or just have fish on your upper lip?...
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Through a court screw up I had a hold placed on my license once. That stopped a gun purchase for me. My license had been suspended for speeding I got it back but someone in COCO county flagged my license with the DMV for whatever reason...all it took were a few phone calls.

Just saying...maybe an unpaid speeding ticket or parking ticket and some yahoo desk jockey flagged your license and it showed up when they ran it for DROS. something silly.
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ibimmer you are playing in the boys room with boys rules you need to have a thicker skin.

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ibimmer you are playing in the boys room with boys rules you need to have a thicker skin.

Glad you're here whatever your name is.
randy, I started this thread to ask for help. I found none from those who posted "empty" posts.

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So should you fill out the SS# part on DROS or not?
That would be impressive since there is no area on the DROS or a SS #

That would be on the 4473 which is irrelevant and useless in relation to the CA DOJ and the DROS.
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Sometimes we have customers who have issues with their license/DMV which can and will effect the DROS. Not sure if it relates to your issue but it's another possibility.

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are you permanent resident or US citizen ?. if permanent resident, is it new or not ? they might be waiting on some FBI background check if non US citizen.
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are you permanent resident or US citizen ?. if permanent resident, is it new or not ? they might be waiting on some FBI background check if non US citizen.
Does not matter if new or not, FBI has long check his background before they issue the card. Green card holders does not matter too, any legal non-US citizen or non-resident can purchase firearms as long as he have a valid hunting permit on top of all other requirements.

iBimmer - As someone mentioned, you should talk with the person who placed you on hold. I'll bet her name starts with C. It happened to me too when I was still on working permit. The lady said that she noticed that my work permit already expired but she also mentioned that she has the renewed working permit. She has to check with INS if the new one is valid.

I asked to talked with her supervisor and I told the supervisor that the fact that "C" is holding a renewed working permit that must mean something. My firearm was released the same day.

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My first handgun DROS was rejected because I was not 21 when I STARTED the DROS.
My dealer was not sure if you had to be 21 to start the DROS, or just to pickup the gun so we went ahead and tried it.
Wait times were 15 days back then.
I got stopped about 2 days before my pickup day and I was actually 21 at that time.
It did not matter to DOJ though.
They made me re-DROS and it went through fine the 2nd time around.

The point of all this is that they told my dealer WHY the DROS could not be completed.
I did not have to call Sacramento to ask.
I guess things are different now.
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If someone hasn't already mentioned it, unpaid moving violations can result in a DROS denial/delay.
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As H2H has asked, are you a US citizen/permanent resident or here on a VISA ? If you are the latter, did you recently just come into the US (< 90 days) ? If you are, that's the reason that there's a hold on your DROS. A friend a mine had the same issue. Trying calling them again and ask for the reason. I hope everything sorts out for you. Good luck!
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Let us know what the hold up was once you find out. While I have not had this issue before in the past, I would still be interested in knowing.
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The point of all this is that they told my dealer WHY the DROS could not be completed.
I did not have to call Sacramento to ask.
I guess things are different now.
Indeed. They never tell us anything. They just provide the number to call and tell us to give it to the buyer.
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So should you fill out the SS# part on DROS or not?
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4 years ago, I had a hold put on my DROS and I'm no newcomer to purchasing guns by any elongation of the imagination; what was the issue? The FFL dealer spelled my name wrong on the DROS, as well as wrote one number off on my driver's license (an 5 instead of a 6). He did not swipe my DL as it was a gun show purchase (was a few years ago) so the hold was installed.

It was discovered on the 4th day and they called him, he called me, he couldn't give me any reason why, so I called them; I spoke with "Sheila" at the DOJ and within 10 minutes my DROS was reactivated - apparently, if you can get the problem resolved within the 10 day time frame, it won't be canceled nor will any time be added to your wait.

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I was also denied for my first handgun. Took me two weeks of calling DOJ with them saying "Oh, this hold is no big deal, you should be approved by tomorrow. We'll give you a call when your approved". I let another two weeks go by expecting a call from DOJ/Gunshop. When i finally broke down and called back they said "Oh, we approved you awhile ago". The Gunshop also had the same "Where've you been" response.
I never asked what the hold was about.
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Let us know what the hold up was once you find out. While I have not had this issue before in the past, I would still be interested in knowing.
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Ignore the other folks' stupid comments.

Please let us know what the hold up was once you find out.
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I had CADOJ put a rifle I had traded for on hold, actually they just denied me I think. They were actually very helpful and let me know if was an unpaid speeding ticket in nowhere AZ that I had forgotten about. Paid the ticket the next day and called the DOJ girl that was working on it for me. She immediately called the court in AZ to verify that I had paid the ticket and released the rifle the same day.
I had the same thing happen to me. Miner traffic violation + not paying fine = no gun. It is easy to fix though.
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