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  • #16
    Par5In2
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 486

    Originally posted by Beegee
    Ducky I have installed mine today, I think i did all good, but I question, I tried the "pencil test", it did not shoot the pencil out, it just move a little bit, but on my TS it would fly out. Is this normal?....im also emailing David from CGW tomorrow.
    Do you have the CGW ext FP? If so, that's the problem. The retaining pin channel isn't long enough. Either file it and increase the length, or order on from CZC.
    Originally posted by pacrat
    What part of Cuba are you located in, Havana? Or closer to Guantanamo?

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    • #17
      Beegee
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 194

      Originally posted by Par5In2
      Do you have the CGW ext FP? If so, that's the problem. The retaining pin channel isn't long enough. Either file it and increase the length, or order on from CZC.
      I got the CGW, I'll have to try this out at the range before I'll do anything. Anyway which side do I have to file....and how much material?

      Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

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      • #18
        Tok36
        Veteran Member
        • May 2013
        • 3061

        ^^I might refrain from cutting on your FP until you have identified a real issue. An anemic pencil test dose not constitute a good reason as i see it.

        I would go shoot the pistol and see if it works before i cut on my FP.

        For reference some of my CZs have weak pencil tests and the function fine.

        Edit: you stated that you intended on shooting it first. Somehow i missed that.
        Last edited by Tok36; 06-29-2016, 12:15 AM.
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        • #19
          Lead Waster
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 16650

          The key is the hammer. Either the CGW or the CZCustom one is amazing.

          However, you'll have to adjust either your safety or your sear, I think CGW sells an adjustable sear that makes the job 1000x easier.
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          • #20
            Beegee
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 194

            Originally posted by Lead Waster
            The key is the hammer. Either the CGW or the CZCustom one is amazing.

            However, you'll have to adjust either your safety or your sear, I think CGW sells an adjustable sear that makes the job 1000x easier.
            I got the whole package, I adjusted the sear to get the safety function. I'll have to get some red loctite......I did talk to David @ CGW, he said pencil test does not always tell if it will function or not, he suggested to try it at the range.

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            • #21
              Beegee
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 194

              David is always helpful! CGW customer service is great. I know that this issue will be taken cared off, if this is even an issue.

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              Last edited by Beegee; 06-28-2016, 7:06 PM.

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              • #22
                schmeky
                Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 114

                PAR5In2

                I have a question for you. You say our FP channel is not long enough on our firing pins.

                Our FP protrudes .080" from the breech face at full stroke. Is this insufficient?

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                • #23
                  Par5In2
                  Member
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 486

                  Originally posted by schmeky
                  PAR5In2

                  I have a question for you. You say our FP channel is not long enough on our firing pins.

                  Our FP protrudes .080" from the breech face at full stroke. Is this insufficient?
                  We discussed this with Stu awhile back on Enos's. No one could cure the light strikes in the non-shadow... until we lengthened the channel. CZC is longer, and when dropped in, cured light strikes.

                  Edit: I'll post the pics/findings once photo bucket gets back up, or you can cruise on over to Enos's.

                  Edit2: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...6986&p=2533982

                  Edit 3:
                  Last edited by Par5In2; 06-29-2016, 7:49 AM.
                  Originally posted by pacrat
                  What part of Cuba are you located in, Havana? Or closer to Guantanamo?

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                  • #24
                    schmeky
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 114

                    PAR5In2

                    You imply our FP's cause light strikes. This is patently false. Our FP's are reliable enough to be approved for Law Enforcement use. When used with the proper hammer spring(s), they work as designed.

                    To increase the retaining pin cut out means with the hammer lowered, the FP could be in contact with the primer, so if the firearm is dropped, an AD could occur. For competition use this is acceptable, but otherwise could be a liability.

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                    • #25
                      Par5In2
                      Member
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 486

                      Originally posted by schmeky
                      PAR5In2

                      You imply our FP's cause light strikes. This is patently false. Our FP's are reliable enough to be approved for Law Enforcement use. When used with the proper hammer spring(s), they work as designed.

                      To increase the retaining pin cut out means with the hammer lowered, the FP could be in contact with the primer, so if the firearm is dropped, an AD could occur. For competition use this is acceptable, but otherwise could be a liability.
                      Don't know, don't care. There are numerous threads going on Enos's (and have been) addressing how to "fix" the CGW FP channel issue as its related to light strikes.

                      You can't discuss or deny that 1. CZC sells a firing pin that works (as proven)... 2. Multiple people have had the same issue, and remedied by increasing channel length.
                      Originally posted by pacrat
                      What part of Cuba are you located in, Havana? Or closer to Guantanamo?

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                      • #26
                        Tok36
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 3061

                        Originally posted by Par5In2
                        Do you have the CGW ext FP? If so, that's the problem. The retaining pin channel isn't long enough. Either file it and increase the length, or order on from CZC.
                        I have seen this put forth over on the BE forums a few times over the last year. So i believe we are reading the same stuff.

                        When i have seen this suggested in the past it was a last resort fix for people already using the lightest hammer spring that is available, the 8.5#. I have also never seen it suggested outside of a competition setting.

                        To suggest this fix to a guy after he tells you that he has a weak pencil test is reckless in my opinion. Due to the affect of this mod i would be careful where and who i suggested it to.

                        I commend your will to share information, but i question your judgment.
                        Vive La Exile Machine!!
                        Link--> CZ 75B -vs- CZ 75 SP-01 Comparison
                        Link--> CGW Type 3 Disco fitting fun
                        Link--> What is a CZ Tactical sport?
                        Will work for CZ Pics!

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                        • #27
                          Par5In2
                          Member
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 486

                          Originally posted by Tok36
                          I have seen this put forth over on the BE forums a few times over the last year. So i believe we are reading the same stuff.

                          When i have seen this suggested in the past it was a last resort fix for people already using the lightest hammer spring that is available, the 8.5#. I have also never seen it suggested outside of a competition setting.

                          To suggest this fix to a guy after he tells you that he has a weak pencil test is reckless in my opinion. Due to the affect of this mod i would be careful where and who i suggested it to.

                          I commend your will to share information, but i question your judgment.
                          Lol
                          Originally posted by pacrat
                          What part of Cuba are you located in, Havana? Or closer to Guantanamo?

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                          • #28
                            Par5In2
                            Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 486

                            Bump for response... or are we done with this?
                            Originally posted by pacrat
                            What part of Cuba are you located in, Havana? Or closer to Guantanamo?

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                            • #29
                              Beegee
                              Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 194

                              alright, Update, I went to the range, shot 100 rnds. without any issues.
                              I am happy with the parts upgrade, such a sweet shooter!
                              So Thanks for the input, recomendations. But the pistol did not need anymore modifications than the drop in parts.

                              Man, this thing is sweeeeeet!

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                              • #30
                                Tok36
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 3061

                                Glad you got it worked out. If you can throw us a picture of the new CZ.
                                Vive La Exile Machine!!
                                Link--> CZ 75B -vs- CZ 75 SP-01 Comparison
                                Link--> CGW Type 3 Disco fitting fun
                                Link--> What is a CZ Tactical sport?
                                Will work for CZ Pics!

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