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  • #16
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Originally posted by ontmark
    Put your life behind what you can shoot the best and be done with it.
    This.

    If it's a good shoot, it won't matter.
    If it's a bad shoot, all of your guns are gone anyways.

    Plan to use what you shoot best without regard for price.

    That said, my $500 Glocks and XD are dead-solid reliable.
    My 1911 is picky, but that's common with the 1911, they are picky on magazines and ammo, but mine is also not a $1000+ gun.

    So yes... ignore cost and focus on reliability and shootability.
    - Rich

    Originally posted by dantodd
    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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    • #17
      Prof Bob
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 30

      Originally posted by theme57
      I have a sig sp2022 I would trust in a pinch. Got the gun for 400 and shoot pretty well with it.
      I was actually thinking the same thing. My Sig SP2022 is comfortable, reliable, and good for HD...as well as pretty darned affordable. I love all my others, some far more, but for some reason that one just fits with me. Under stress I suspect it's the one I'd be most able to shoot straight, too.

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      • #18
        CandG
        Spent $299 for this text!
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2014
        • 16970

        Originally posted by mcr_driver
        That's always been a fear of mine...I only used the XYZ for an idiot intruder who let Newsom in my home to take the rest? SMH...Also would they confiscate my girls firearms as well since we share our safe together? Or is that a grey area scenario sort of question.
        This whole topic is a gray area, because it depends on the exact scenario. The cops might just shake your hand, write some notes, and take nothing but the
        dead guy with them when they leave. Or they might take all your guns, and you in handcuffs down to the station for an extented visit, or anything in between. But, I would think that if they're taking all YOUR guns for whatever reason, they'd probably take any other people's guns that they can find as well. But in any case, try not to worry about it right now, it's impossible to predict and impossible to prevent, best to just focus on saving you and your family first, deal with the aftermath later.
        Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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        • #19
          theme57
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 327

          Originally posted by Prof Bob
          I was actually thinking the same thing. My Sig SP2022 is comfortable, reliable, and good for HD...as well as pretty darned affordable. I love all my others, some far more, but for some reason that one just fits with me. Under stress I suspect it's the one I'd be most able to shoot straight, too.
          First time taking it out shooting blazer 115gr fmj I was getting under an inch at 7 yards. Pretty good tbh. Plus it's a no nonsense pistol. Great out of the box.

          Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

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          • #20
            Germ1
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 1165

            Originally posted by BoJackUSMC
            I dont have any expensive 1911s, but all my guns are reliable with solid proven records. I carry Glock, Sig p320, and HK VP9.. all under $600 and they work good as over $2k 1911s.
            Where you get a HK VP9 for under 600 dollars.

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            • #21
              elSquid
              In Memoriam
              • Aug 2007
              • 11844

              It doesn't make sense to have low cost as an important criteria for an HD gun...unless you really can't afford to spend money.

              Otherwise buy whatever works for you. There is a very low chance that any of us individually will be in a HD shooting, so having a gun in police lockup will never happen for most of us. As well, if you are in a defensive shooting, I think that the fact that you may have a pricey gun in temporary lockup will be the least of one's concerns. And as long as the shooting is clean, you'll get your gun back.

              My HD gun is a Benelli M2 shotgun. Price wasn't a concern, a reputation for great reliability/durability was a big factor.



              -- Michael

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              • #22
                elSquid
                In Memoriam
                • Aug 2007
                • 11844

                OH, and I've quoted this post many a time. It was written by a retired LEO calgunner...



                For folks worried about losing their entire collection to an evidence locker, the last few paragraphs are worth a read.

                Actually, the whole thing is worth a read. And multiple stickies.

                -- Michael
                Last edited by elSquid; 04-10-2016, 2:39 AM.

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                • #23
                  jeffrice6
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 5163

                  Life is > $
                  WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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                  • #24
                    DDM4556
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2601

                    Already another thread on this...

                    I would never trust my life to a cheap gun - even if I hear they're pretty good. For HD, always spend the money for quality. But you don't have to go crazy either. I choose Glocks for HD. I shoot them well, they're not too expensive, and nothing is more reliable. I've put thousands of rounds through them w/o failure.

                    Berettas, XDs, M&Ps, CZs are all great choices too. Although I'd never use an off-roster gun for HD in CA.

                    I love my Glocks but the "nice" stuff stays in the safe.
                    iTrader: 52 transactions, 100% positive.

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                    • #25
                      Rottentofu
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 2147

                      Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                      If you shoot someone in self defense at your home, your whole collection is probably heading to the same evidence locker anyways.
                      Has that actually happen before?

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                      • #26
                        TeddyBallgame
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 5732

                        Originally posted by elSquid
                        It doesn't make sense to have low cost as an important criteria for an HD gun...unless you really can't afford to spend money.

                        Otherwise buy whatever works for you. There is a very low chance that any of us individually will be in a HD shooting, so having a gun in police lockup will never happen for most of us. As well, if you are in a defensive shooting, I think that the fact that you may have a pricey gun in temporary lockup will be the least of one's concerns. And as long as the shooting is clean, you'll get your gun back.

                        My HD gun is a Benelli M2 shotgun. Price wasn't a concern, a reputation for great reliability/durability was a big factor.



                        -- Michael
                        ^THIS^

                        by all accounts, my Browning Hi-Power 9mm should be my HD firearm...it's probably the most accurate firearm i own, definitely the best balanced, plus, all my magazines for it are 13 rounders, grandfathered from when i purchased it

                        unfortunately, it's the one firearm i least desire to lose if i ever happen to need to defend myself

                        so, it stays in the safe and only comes out when i take it to the range along with its buddies...same with my Beretta Cougar, and my 92FS...don't want to part with them

                        i bought a Px4 i keep for HD...i wouldn't call it a cheapie by any means, just easily enough replaceable if need be, and, definitely reliable...i would never buy a gun that i think might fail me, saving $$$ has never factored into any of my gun buying decisions
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                        • #27
                          _Nick_
                          Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 181

                          I think My G19 was 550. Love it at the range, love it in the house.
                          AR15: https://www.etsy.com/listing/2812170...-cookie-cutter

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                          • #28
                            Prof Bob
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 30

                            Anyone else doing this?

                            Agreed...buying cheap can prove to be "expensive" in a whole different kind of way. That being said, my Sig SP2022 is pretty affordable, has been reliable, and for some reason...I seem to shoot it the straightest of all in my small but growing collection.

                            So I guess pricewise, if I had to have one in police lockup, that's a good compromise.

                            However, as a LEO family member once said, better to be judged by 12 than carried by six.
                            Last edited by Prof Bob; 04-10-2016, 1:39 PM.

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                            • #29
                              -hanko
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14174

                              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                              The fact that it might get locked up in an evidence locker shouldn't be a factor... your level of trust in the the effectiveness and reliability of the weapon and your level of skill with it should be the only factors.

                              If you shoot someone in self defense at your home, your whole collection is probably heading to the same evidence locker anyways.
                              And I'm sure you "probably" know of an instance or two where that's happened.


                              Originally posted by mcr_driver
                              Right there with you, The 17 is a EDC while my CZ and soon to be HK will be fun guns. I do want to get a 19 as well for a back up to the 17 but it's a never ending cycle haha

                              That's always been a fear of mine...I only used the XYZ for an idiot intruder who let Newsom in my home to take the rest? SMH...Also would they confiscate my girls firearms as well since we share our safe together? Or is that a grey area scenario sort of question.
                              This thread is a grey area sort of thread.


                              Originally posted by Germ1
                              This, if you ever get into this situation the last thing on your mind is losing the gun. You're going to court and praying you're not going to prison.
                              Why are you going to court in a "good" shoot.

                              We went through this stupidity last week with questions about how gun modifications might cause you difficulty after a good shoot. History demonstrates that just doesn't happen.


                              Originally posted by elSquid
                              OH, and I've quoted this post many a time. It was written by a retired LEO calgunner...



                              For folks worried about losing their entire collection to an evidence locker, the last few paragraphs are worth a read.

                              Actually, the whole thing is worth a read. And multiple stickies.

                              -- Michael
                              People read what they want to read, sometimes it's taken to heart, other times FUD is invented since, obviously, if I saw it on the internet it must be true.


                              Originally posted by Rottentofu
                              Has that actually happen before?
                              Nope. And the retards that post this FUD regularly would rather stay in their state instead of checking history.
                              Last edited by -hanko; 04-10-2016, 12:56 PM.
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                              • #30
                                zapatito92
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 768

                                just choose a solid reliable gun that you know how to shoot well and you will be fine.
                                most people dont like to fire off their 2000 dollar guns anyway

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