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  • #16
    JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    Is the gun brand new?

    I'm betting the JHP ammo is shorter than the FMJ. The JHP will have a wider mouth meaning the initial contact point of the ammo to the feed ramp is lower. Combine that with a weak magazine spring allowing the round to nose dive. Polishing may help solve the problem depending how rough thenramp is.
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    • #17
      zapatito92
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 768

      Originally posted by JTROKS
      Is the gun brand new?

      I'm betting the JHP ammo is shorter than the FMJ. The JHP will have a wider mouth meaning the initial contact point of the ammo to the feed ramp is lower. Combine that with a weak magazine spring allowing the round to nose dive. Polishing may help solve the problem depending how rough thenramp is.
      yeah the gun only has 100 rounds through it and its seems like the mouth of the hollow point is what is causing the failure.

      the spring im not entirely sure if you would consider it weak.
      its easier to load than my glock. but not as easy to load as my 1911

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      • #18
        Matt P
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 3101

        How much friction do you think there is when a bullet touches the feed ramp?
        Think about how much of that actually is making contact during the violent action of it being stripped off the magazine and forced into the chamber.
        Polishing a ramp is much more for peace of mind then actually addressing an issue. That ramp would have to be in horrible shape to create problems in feeding.
        If you believe it will work, and you believe enough, it just may.
        Rarely does polishing a feed ramp actually do anything tangible.

        If polishing was an easy street to greater reliability then why wouldn't all manufactures just do it. Simply because too many other factor's affect reliability unrelated to the firearm.
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        • #19
          zapatito92
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 768

          Originally posted by Matt P
          How much friction do you think there is when a bullet touches the feed ramp?
          Think about how much of that actually is making contact during the violent action of it being stripped off the magazine and forced into the chamber.
          Polishing a ramp is much more for peace of mind then actually addressing an issue. That ramp would have to be in horrible shape to create problems in feeding.
          If you believe it will work, and you believe enough, it just may.
          Rarely does polishing a feed ramp actually do anything tangible.

          If polishing was an easy street to greater reliability then why wouldn't all manufactures just do it. Simply because too many other factor's affect reliability unrelated to the firearm.

          the issue is only with hollow points, the other ammo I tried feed just fine, until it was mentioned in this post I would have never even thought to polish the feed ramp. I don't know if it will work or not, but I am trying to see if this is an issue I can resolve on my own, or something I have to have settled with Beretta

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          • #20
            CAGLS
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 3695

            Just put a felt polishing tip on a Dremel with some Flitz compound then polish the feed ramp and throat of the barrel. Just be careful not to have the Dremel shaft not touch and chatter the feed ramp. I had to do it on the feed ramp on my Dan Wesson Valor. It had black finish duty treat that caused friction with the bullet round and would hang up. After the polish it feeds flawlessly.

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            • #21
              nedro
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 4130

              What happens if you only load a couple of rounds in the mag? Will it still hang up?
              Make sure you are inserting the mag all the way in.

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              • #22
                Matt P
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 3101

                Originally posted by zapatito92
                the issue is only with hollow points, the other ammo I tried feed just fine, until it was mentioned in this post I would have never even thought to polish the feed ramp. I don't know if it will work or not, but I am trying to see if this is an issue I can resolve on my own, or something I have to have settled with Beretta
                Okay, so more resistence with certain bullets type. Polishing still is not the answer. The slide may need more energy on returning forward to aid in feeding other bullet types. This is not to say increase recoil spring tension.
                I mentioned other factors play more of a role then the firearm.
                Technique, technique and more technique. Why is it experienced shooters simply do not have these issues?
                Firearms seem to be the one tool owners think should be functional independent of their ability to use it.
                Polishing will not fix your issue unless you think it will.
                My suggestion is choose a defensive shaped bullet that is similar to the style of those that function reliably already.
                Your handgun functionining reliably trumps launching the latest most awesome man stopper that may or may not feed. Some handguns just do not like certain bullet designs.
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                • #23
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17621

                  Originally posted by zapatito92
                  Last night something told me to test out the function of the hollow points, since i don't really have experience with them, i never really saw the point.
                  You figured this part out, but for the rest who read this thread:

                  ALWAYS TEST DEFENSIVE AMMO IN YOUR HD/CARRY WEAPON!

                  (Yes, it was yelling.)

                  Besides having different bullet (hollow point,) defensive ammo can be anything from hot (+P, +P+) to mild (low recoil, etc.) All of this can significantly affect cycling, feeding, ejection, even accuracy in shorter guns.
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                  • #24
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17621

                    Originally posted by zapatito92
                    Last night something told me to test out the function of the hollow points, ...
                    Hollow points are "stubby" compared to FMJ and will frequently get stuck on steep feeding ramps. Since ramp can be either on the frame or part of the barrel, different designs have different propensity for problems.

                    Here is an interesting reverse example. Kimber Solo is designed for hollow points - the feeding ramp has a cut in the middle so the stubby part of the bullet doesn't get stuck. This in turn creates problem when pointy FMJs are being fed, where the tip can get slightly wedged.

                    In your case, Beretta should feed most hollow points well. It's a good gun.
                    sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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