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  • zapatito92
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 768

    failure to feed issues

    whats up everyone, i recently picked up my 84fs cheetah and only put about 100 rounds through it (still waiting on a bulk ammo order) and performed flawlessly with great accuracy. since it is a relatively small gun i figured it would be a nice carry/nightstand gun so i bought a pack of sig JHP's loaded up one of the mags and leave it near the gun.

    Last night something told me to test out the function of the hollow points, since i don't really have experience with them, i never really saw the point. Anyways so i threw the mag in and tried to rack back the gun, and to my surprise it failed to feed . i tried again and still nothing racked it back a third time and it finally went in. i thought maybe it was a fluke or something. took that round out and tried the next only to have the same problem. had this problem 5 times in a row upon inspection it looked like the head if the hollow point was started to split. i guess they kept getting caught and that's causing the FTF. tried another mag with fmj ammo and fed fine. does anybody know what i can do to fix this ? or should i just avoid the hollow point with this gun ?

    in a life in death situation its not ideal to have to rack the gun three times just to load it.
  • #2
    BoJackUSMC
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 7091

    Racking slide and shooting is little different.. better of firing at the range than just racking it... but still.. it FMJ goes all the way, but HJP goes FTF...

    Might have to polish your feed or fire few hundreds of rounds first before doing any adjusting.

    It could be the ammo as well...
    Last edited by BoJackUSMC; 04-07-2016, 9:44 AM.

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    • #3
      BoJackUSMC
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2010
      • 7091

      I am sure calguns experts will chime in soon.

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      • #4
        P5Ret
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 6378

        It's very difficult to diagnose a mechanical problem without some type of visual. It could be ammo related, it could be gun related, mag related or operator related.

        I don't have any experience with Sig ammo, or know who makes it so Sig can put their name on it. When I had a 84 I never had an issue with hollow points.

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        • #5
          BoJackUSMC
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 7091

          Certain guns dont like certain brand of HJP.. that's is why they always tell you to shoot few hundreds rounds of HJP rounds before making that ammo of your choice.

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          • #6
            artb
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Feb 2014
            • 1552

            I had to polish the feed ramp on my LC9 to get the JHP and XTP rounds to load consistently.
            You can get a decent inexpensive dremel kit at Harbor Freight tools but be sure to get additional soft cotton rotary wheels for the feed ramp.
            Do not use a grinding stone or sandpaper on the feed ramp.
            Get a small container of metal polishing compound as well.

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            • #7
              BoJackUSMC
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 7091

              If you are going to polish the feed... do it little by little...

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              • #8
                ef9boy88
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 645

                My lcp and lc380 both hate jhp rounds as well as flat nose rounds. Maybe something to that.

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                • #9
                  FeuerFrei
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 7455

                  OP,
                  This reads like an ammo problem. Feeds and fires standard ammo.

                  Some pistols just gag on certain types/brands of hollow points.

                  Shop for several types and re-test. You'll find something it likes.
                  Please do not attempt to polish or "fix" it yet.

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                  • #10
                    artb
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 1552

                    Originally posted by ef9boy88
                    My lcp and lc380 both hate jhp rounds as well as flat nose rounds. Maybe something to that.
                    Same family as my LC9.
                    I bought the LC380 and waited for the LC9 conversion kit.
                    Loaded both .380 and 9mm FMJ no problem, but the hollow points hung up on the feed ramp.
                    Polishing both feed ramps solved the problem.

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                    • #11
                      artb
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 1552

                      Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                      OP,
                      This reads like an ammo problem. Feeds and fires standard ammo.

                      Some pistols just gag on certain types/brands of hollow points.

                      Shop for several types and re-test. You'll find something it likes.
                      Please do not attempt to polish or "fix" it yet.
                      What are the liabilities of polishing the feed ramp?
                      Increased loading efficiency is not a liability in my firearms.

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                      • #12
                        robert101
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1997

                        I would be concerned if the gun will not load a round from the magazine with simple racking of the slide. It is true that firing is very different but still. I would first change ammo bullet design. If that does not work then I would consider a feed ramp polish. Remember, once you start this only polish and don't remove or change the ramp angle.

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                        • #13
                          zapatito92
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 768

                          Originally posted by artb
                          Same family as my LC9.
                          I bought the LC380 and waited for the LC9 conversion kit.
                          Loaded both .380 and 9mm FMJ no problem, but the hollow points hung up on the feed ramp.
                          Polishing both feed ramps solved the problem.
                          If this problem persists I will probably just try doing that.

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                          • #14
                            zapatito92
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 768

                            Thanks for the input everyone, its really appreciated Im going to do what bojack recommended first just try firing a couple hundred more rounds through it and then switching hollow point ammo like some one else mentioned
                            hopefully that solves the problem, if not I guess I will do the polish

                            thanks again guys

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                            • #15
                              Musubi1000
                              Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 154

                              I agree. A gun needs to have at least 500 rnds through it to break in. But do try other brands of HPs at the range as well.

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