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  • RedRiderF26
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 255

    J-frame / LCR suitable ccw?

    Are small revolvers like this a rational choice for ccw? Or is it only smart to use them as a BUG?

    They have a great size and weight for me fits right in my pocket , cons are capacity and realoding (easier to just reload a mag) .

    I always ride my motorcycle and personally wouldnt want anything bigger than a shield or cw9. Those are definitely bigger and heavier than the revolvers. And My vest or jacket cover my waist , so thats where pocket carry may be an advantage.

    What do you you guys think would be the smarter choice?
  • #2
    ICONIC
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1223

    I got the LCR to use as my gun for camping and backpacking. For ccw you need to use the gun you are most comfortable shooting. Don't try to force a gun to fit your needs.
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    • #3
      desertjosh
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2011
      • 5749

      Sure. I loved my LCR. Get the .357 mag version?
      On another note, have you felt a LCP? It feels like a cell phone in my pocket...way smaller than a LCR.
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      • #4
        Cpetersen
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 803

        Sounds like you already have a reasonable idea of the pros and cons.

        If it were me, rounds without reloading are pretty important. Id go with a shield, or like a glock 26/27.

        I say that because thats what i go with on mine.

        Best of luck.
        Last edited by Cpetersen; 03-06-2016, 11:30 AM. Reason: Mis-typed 26/27 as 27/27
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        • #5
          Marquand
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 1482

          Small alloy-framed revolvers have been top picks for CCW for years now. They are small, easy to hide, not impossible to shoot, and extremely reliable. As for reloading I would argue that a lot of sub-compact pistols are not exactly quick to reload either. Solution? Carry two J-frames and do a "New York Reload".
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          • #6
            _Nick_
            Member
            • Jan 2016
            • 181

            Once I get approved (knock on wood) I'll be carrying my J frame. I too have thought about it's effectiveness and capacity. I've been researching self defense shootings and noting how many shots each player fired. Unfortunately I can not find a database to include the number or rounds fired. I found this, which does give some good information, but not exactly what I was looking for: http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf

            An attacker may not be armed with a gun, they may have another weapon, or no weapon at all. If they do have a gun, chances are it's a semi-auto pistol. If it's an active shooter situation, they're most likely carrying a semi-auto, or fully auto, rifle. They will most certainly have more rounds than you. Most victims I have found online fire at least 5 shots before pausing. There are many cases in which a LEO shoots a man 9, 10, 11, 12 times before he stops advancing on them. Massad Ayoob describes one case in which a man was shot in the heart, and THEN lunged towards the officers. In a separate interview he describes the best placed shot as being the pelvis, because it will stop the attacker from walking. In any case, if you have only 5 or 6 rounds in your cylinder, I'd use selfdefense ammo like the Hornady FTX, or even the RIP. Make them count.

            If I ever have to use my CCW for self defense, I want to reload the J frame with lightning speed, which is why I am going with a machined cylinder and moon clips. I have an HKS speed loader, and I'm not impressed with my own time reloading it. (There's free app's with shot timers to practice with using your phone)

            For me, J frame + FTX + moon clips = enough to ease my worry if I ever need to use it. If you put enough holes in the swiss cheese, you'll never settle and wind up never leaving your house.

            EDIT: Should I ever place myself into a situation where I want more protection, I'll take my Glock. It's got a bigger capacity. I've considered this after selling or buying a car with cash. I'm not leaving the house with 10 grand and no gun.
            Last edited by _Nick_; 03-06-2016, 12:18 PM.
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            • #7
              Twiki357
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 293

              It all depends on what you are comfortable with for the kind of area you’re in. I’m perfectly comfortable with a “J” frame and a speed strip.

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              • #8
                Cpl_Peters
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 652

                Once the novelty of carrying a duty sized gun with a tac-light in some kydex monstrosity that prints even in an Alaskan winter coat wears off....the j frame or a pocket .380 is the inevitable choice. you carry a CCW to immediately protect your life in an upfront an personal situation, the j-frame keeps you honest in that respect. plus it is a realistic choice to carry. Dont listen to those keyboard commandos that show their "pocket dumps" of three flash lights, two watches, 4 extra mags, 2 knives, and a glock 17. thats not reasonable self defense or easy to conceal unless you are a huge fat guy. j-frame is the way to go. i've been carrying CCW for over 8 years now and like i said before, once the novelty wears off, you want something that is easy to conceal, because chances are you will do a lot more living then you will gun fighting.

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                • #9
                  gunsandrockets
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1537

                  The nice things about a snubby revolver is absolute reliability, the ability to load whatever ammunition is comfortable to YOUR recoil tolerance, grips customizable to YOUR hand, and a better DA or SA trigger than any small automatic.

                  Go with a Ruger .38 LCRx, and you won't regret it.
                  Last edited by gunsandrockets; 03-07-2016, 12:53 AM.
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                  • #10
                    bluesmoke9
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 815

                    I'm a retired police officer and I almost always carry a gun with me. It can be as small as a NAA .22 magnum or could be a S&W 642 or could be a Shield. Depends on where I'm going, how I'm going to dress, how much comfort I want to give up and what the potential "threat" might be.
                    It's unlikely, at least where I live, I'll ever be in a situation where I need it so I don't over do it. If someone wants to have two Glock 19's in their underwear and four extra magazines at all times, make yourself happy. That just doesn't work for me. I don't leave the house putting high odds at doing battle with an ISIS cell at the local mall. It's more likely I'd win the lottery. I also downplay the odds of having to take a head shot on someone at 25 yards while they're holding a hostage. I have seen it, in the movies. What I do foresee is a street criminal, within 5-8 feet, with a knife or cheap handgun demanding my wallet. That's what I plan for. And, it's a lot more about situational awareness (anticipating the threat) than it is about how big your gun is, at least in my experience.
                    If you buy anything because it has "tactical" or "operator" in the name, we probably don't run in the same circles.

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                    • #11
                      Gun Kraft
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 804

                      For what it's worth, I'm current LE and have been carrying for almost a decade now. Most of the time it's a J-frame (currently a 340). Now and then I'll switch it up and carry something small like a PPS or large like a full-size 1911, but the J-frame is my go-to. Keep in mind that any time you use a shorter barrel you need to up the (rated) velocity to compensate.
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                      • #12
                        bk23103
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 1088

                        Originally posted by bluesmoke9
                        I'm a retired police officer and I almost always carry a gun with me. It can be as small as a NAA .22 magnum or could be a S&W 642 or could be a Shield. Depends on where I'm going, how I'm going to dress, how much comfort I want to give up and what the potential "threat" might be.
                        It's unlikely, at least where I live, I'll ever be in a situation where I need it so I don't over do it. If someone wants to have two Glock 19's in their underwear and four extra magazines at all times, make yourself happy. That just doesn't work for me. I don't leave the house putting high odds at doing battle with an ISIS cell at the local mall. It's more likely I'd win the lottery. I also downplay the odds of having to take a head shot on someone at 25 yards while they're holding a hostage. I have seen it, in the movies. What I do foresee is a street criminal, within 5-8 feet, with a knife or cheap handgun demanding my wallet. That's what I plan for. And, it's a lot more about situational awareness (anticipating the threat) than it is about how big your gun is, at least in my experience.
                        I couldn't agree more with your outlook sir.

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                        • #13
                          Rcjackrabbit
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 971

                          Small revolvers are BUGS. Don't be lazy. If you are faced with a muslim terrorist shooting people, you want a real weapon you can make head shots with. Shoot for the head. He might be wearing an explosive vest.

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                          • #14
                            Dano3467
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 7381

                            YES

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                            • #15
                              bk23103
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1088

                              Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                              Small revolvers are BUGS. Don't be lazy. If you are faced with a muslim terrorist shooting people, you want a real weapon you can make head shots with. Shoot for the head. He might be wearing an explosive vest.
                              Copy. I'll wear my AR pistol under my coat.

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