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  • joe55
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1025

    Sig p6 question.....

    Well I have used thed search button and still cannot find the specific answer I am looking for....

    I see people recommending to replace the recoil spring in the p6, but I am not sure which one to order....there are 7 different ones... Do I want a stronger spring or a lighter one than factory??? I plan on mainly using it for range use and the occasional carry weapon with hp ammo.

    Thanks in advance
  • #2
    Oldnoob
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 2829

    The one in your P6 most likely have high/stronger spring. You want to lighten the spring. I don't remember what # you should get but lighter spring is usually what people get for their p6. I have a link save somewhere about how to mod P6, give me sometime to dig it out. I'll either pm you of post up here.
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    • #3
      nick
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      • Aug 2008
      • 19151

      Do post it here, please
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      • #4
        M. D. Van Norman
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2002
        • 4168

        Some folks replace the heavy hammer spring for a better trigger pull and the potentially worn recoil spring for reliable cycling.
        Matthew D. Van Norman
        Dancing Giant Sales | Licensed Firearms Dealer | Rainier, WA

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        • #5
          ontmark
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 1237

          Go stock for now.
          Fine tune after you have shot it a lot.

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          SIG Sauer’s recommended maintenance and parts replacement schedule (as of March 2008):

          Barrel: If the pistol exhibits keyholing or unacceptable accuracy.
          Decocking lever spring: 10,000
          Extractor: 20,000
          Extractor spring: 20,000
          Firing pin: 20,000
          Firing pin spring: 20,000
          Magazine spring: When magazine fails to lock the slide open. *
          Recoil spring: 5,000 †
          Safety lock spring: 20,000
          Slide catch lever spring: 10,000
          Takedown lever: 20,000
          Trigger bar spring: 10,000

          Mainspring (hammer spring): 5000 or when misfires due to light hammer strikes occur and other causes have been eliminated. Note that this is my own recommendation; SIG Sauer makes no recommendation about the mainspring in the armorer manual. I was told by a fellow armorer, however, that when he asked about it SIG’s informal guidance was that a mainspring should last 40,000 rounds.

          * I also recommend replacing the magazine spring when ammunition is not held securely. This can occur before slide lock failures.

          † I had seen an early recommendation here that the recoil spring be replaced after 3000 rounds, and that's what I follow.

          SIG considers the extractor used in P220 stainless steel slides to be a “sacrificial” part, and that it should be replaced after it’s removed from the slide.

          ------------

          This is the service schedule that was provided along with the above parts schedule:

          Operator - Clean and Lubricate: After every firing or exposure to water chemicals, dirt, or other contaminants.
          Operator - Clean and Lubricate: Annually during storage.
          Operator - Clean and Lubricate: Monthly when carried as duty weapon.
          Operator - Function Check: Whenever disassembled and reassembled.
          Armorer - Field strip and inspect for proper maintenance: Annually.
          Armorer - Detailed disassembly and inspection: Every three years or 5000 rounds fired.

          The detailed disassembly does not necessarily include spring replacements.
          Last edited by ontmark; 12-30-2008, 5:51 AM.

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          • #6
            Oldnoob
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 2829

            I still can't find THE thread I had in mind but here is a starter

            Difference between P6 and 225 http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/3831007341

            A guy mod 4 P6 with range reports http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-...-shooters.html

            The take down guide for sig (video) http://customizedcreationz.com/image...ly_12-08_2.wmv
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            • #7
              Mr. Meeseeks
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 2951

              19# Wolff main/trigger spring, no lower or you may have light primer strikes.

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              • #8
                joe55
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 1025

                Thanks for the input....Ypu guys are great... also oldnoob thanks for the links they have been a great help

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                • #9
                  AJD
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 575

                  If it's the recoil spring, you generally don't want to go any lighter than factory, and in some cases stronger if you want to improve feeding especially with hollowpoints. With the hammer/mainspring, you usually can go lighter, as mentioned above most folks go no lower than 19# to make sure you have reliable primer strikes. Wolff gunsprings should have everything you need. You can order from them directly or from vendors like Midway or as mentioned Topgunsupply.

                  Also sometimes it's a good idea to replace the mag springs as those can be important to feeding ammo and holding the slide open after the last round. Then again if your gun is working fine you might be o.k.

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                  • #10
                    pklin1297
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 3287

                    As soon as I got my P6, I changed the recoil spring to a slightly lighter one (can't remember weight), changed my hammer spring to 19#, and changed the stock magazine spring to extra power. All springs from Wolff.

                    The 19# hammer spring caused at least one light primer strike out of every mag... Actually gave me a great practice of the DA/SA trigger and helped me realize their advantage. Anyway, I switched back to stock spring and went on to stone and polish trigger parts and contact points and improved on the trigger that way with no more malfunctions. I have tried shooting with the stock recoil spring also and had no problems with it.

                    Long story short, I would recommend just changing the magazine spring and leave all else alone.

                    Oh and I also changed factory sights to Trijicon night sights, duracoated the slide, and polished the barrel hood, locking block feed ramp, and barrel feed ramp.
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                    • #11
                      Oldnoob
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2829

                      Originally posted by joe55
                      Thanks for the input....Ypu guys are great... also oldnoob thanks for the links they have been a great help
                      No problem, this is what we here for, helping each other out. Let me know how it turn out.
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                      • #12
                        biscuitninja
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 590

                        Originally posted by pklin1297
                        As soon as I got my P6, I changed the recoil spring to a slightly lighter one (can't remember weight), changed my hammer spring to 19#, and changed the stock magazine spring to extra power. All springs from Wolff.

                        The 19# hammer spring caused at least one light primer strike out of every mag... Actually gave me a great practice of the DA/SA trigger and helped me realize their advantage. Anyway, I switched back to stock spring and went on to stone and polish trigger parts and contact points and improved on the trigger that way with no more malfunctions. I have tried shooting with the stock recoil spring also and had no problems with it.

                        Long story short, I would recommend just changing the magazine spring and leave all else alone.

                        Oh and I also changed factory sights to Trijicon night sights, duracoated the slide, and polished the barrel hood, locking block feed ramp, and barrel feed ramp.
                        I did exactly this to both my P6s. They both work wonderfully now. I still haven't tried hollowpoint in the 1981 P6...

                        Anyways good luck
                        -bix
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                        • #13
                          M. D. Van Norman
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 4168

                          Matthew D. Van Norman
                          Dancing Giant Sales | Licensed Firearms Dealer | Rainier, WA

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                          • #14
                            pklin1297
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 3287


                            Yeah the P6 came with 23 lbs. springs and the DA left much to be desired. Same light primer strike happened with both my reloads (CCI Primers) and Winchester White Box ammo after the 19 lbs. Wolff was installed.
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                            • #15
                              M. D. Van Norman
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4168

                              Oh, Winchester USA? That has caused me problems with every stock handgun I own.
                              Matthew D. Van Norman
                              Dancing Giant Sales | Licensed Firearms Dealer | Rainier, WA

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