Moving to CA question?

[xxxx]

I have a friend who is going to be moving to CA next month, he has a bunch of off-roster high end 1911s and a few SiGs. He is going to be selling one or two of his high end 1911s. I directed him to this website:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991.

He pointed out the phrasing:

Pursuant to Penal Code sections 17000 and 27560, any person who moves into California with a firearm is considered a "Personal Firearm Importer" and is required by California law to do one of the following within 60 days:

Complete and submit a New Resident Report of Firearm Ownership (BOF 4010A), pdf along with $19.00 to the California Department of Justice, Bureau of Firearms;
Sell or transfer the firearm to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction; or
Sell or transfer the firearm to a California police or sheriff's department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the firearm to the agency.

If he sells within 60 days, does he still have o complete and submit a new resident report of firearm ownership?

Thanks.

[BigPimping]

Advise your friend that moving here would be probably the worst thing that he could possibly do. Outside of traveling to Saudi Arabia with an Israeli passport, I can't think of much more that would ruin your life.

[morrcarr67]

I have a friend who is going to be moving to CA next month, he has a bunch of off-roster high end 1911s and a few SiGs. He is going to be selling one or two of his high end 1911s. I directed him to this website:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991.

He pointed out the phrasing:

Pursuant to Penal Code sections 17000 and 27560, any person who moves into California with a firearm is considered a "Personal Firearm Importer" and is required by California law to do one of the following within 60 days:

Complete and submit a New Resident Report of Firearm Ownership (BOF 4010A), pdf along with $19.00 to the California Department of Justice, Bureau of Firearms;
Sell or transfer the firearm to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction; or
Sell or transfer the firearm to a California police or sheriff's department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the firearm to the agency.

If he sells within 60 days, does he still have o complete and submit a new resident report of firearm ownership?

Thanks.

No. By selling he has complied with the law.

Sent with my opposable thumbs

[xxxx]

Advise your friend that moving here would be probably the worst thing that he could possibly do. Outside of traveling to Saudi Arabia with an Israeli passport, I can't think of much more that would ruin your life.

He's not a BIG gun gun, he just has a few really high end 1911s and the small SiG (Colt Mustang copy), more of a collector. But I did inform him the gun laws here are horrible.

[jeffrice6]

Don't do it!!!

[heidad01]

The point of that law is to have the guns entered into the registration system. If he sells them tru a FFL, they get registered in DOJ's system with the new owner's name. If he decides to keep them, no biggie, $19 and he can register all his guns on the same form.

[Rhyyke]

Much as it would suck for him to deal with our gun laws... I do love it when off-roster 1911s are brought into the state .

[madoka]

[INDENT]Pursuant to Penal Code sections 17000 and 27560, any person who moves into California with a firearm is considered a "Personal Firearm Importer" and is required by California law to do one of the following within 60 days:

Sell or transfer the firearm to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction;

So if an out-of-state guy comes in with an off-roster handgun, then he has 60 days to sell it to a CA resident. This then makes the gun CA legal.

So why is it that a bunch of out-of-state guys don't bring in crates of PPQ45s and VP40s, sell them, then change their mind about moving to CA? How is the government supposed to know whether he really wanted to move to CA, but then had a change in his circumstances?

[The Gleam]

I have a friend who is going to be moving to CA next month....

I am sorry for your loss.

[Librarian]

Started as slightly off topic - legal question in Handgun forum - and has drifted more off-topic yet.

As to bringing in "crates", that would violate PC 32000

32000.


(a) A person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, gives, or lends an unsafe handgun shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year.