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  • jlh95811
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2833

    Compensators for 1911?

    Anyone have any experience and/or can offer any advice?

    I found this one of interest. Have not seen others. Need to weigh the options if any.

    The selected compensator will be going on a Springfield Loaded 1911 Full Size in Polished Stainless Steel.

    "people shouldnt be bumping sold stuff. but it is hard to herd cats." - rkt88edmo
  • #2
    kmca
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2371

    The only use I've found for the bushing replacement compensator is to make a 1911 the same length as my open gun so it fit the same holster.

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    • #3
      buffybuster
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2615

      The replacement bushing compensators are WORTHLESS for actually compensating for anything other than the extra weight on the end of the barrel.

      For a compensator to work it needs to be attached to the barrel and the exit whole to be precisely reamed to just larger (about .030" over) than the bullet diameter. That way the compensator will actually trap the gases and "compensates". These need to be fitted and indexed properly by a COMPETENT gunsmith/machinist.

      These replacement bushing types the exit hole has to be bigger than the barrel diameter which to too big to do anything. Don't waste your $$ on those if you want something that works.
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      • #4
        JTROKS
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 13093

        Don't waste your money on those. If you just want to make your Springer 45acp a softer shooting gun and you have an accurate shooting bushing barrel think about adding weight to it by having it sleeved. It will look like a bull barrel and it will require the use of a reversed recoil spring plug. Also adding more weight such as a tungsten guide rod will help keep soften up the felt recoil.
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        • #5
          jlh95811
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2833

          Not so much a weight issue as a coolness factor. I want to custom it out and make it look very nice.
          "people shouldnt be bumping sold stuff. but it is hard to herd cats." - rkt88edmo

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          • #6
            nrakid88
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 3285

            I think for this gun the only way to make that type of compensator work and still be able to assemble and disasemble it would to have a threaded barrel and a threaded compensator with a crush washer and use the original bushing. that way you can have the right diamater hole and still be able to field strip it. I'd love to experiment with making one some day, couldn't be too hard with the right machines, threads makes it an assault pistol in Cali,,, Oh well. But I too do dig that look. I saw it in the Punisher and have wanted a compensator like that ever since
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            • #7
              ojisan
              Agent 86
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2008
              • 11773

              I advise against this, having spent time and money on one already.
              1. Doesn't look as good as a real comp.
              2. May not fit your slide or barrel tightly, so you loose accuracy.
              3. It does actually catch some gas and there is some comp effect. How can you tell? When shooting lead loads, enough lead will build up inside the comp, and be carried back and deposited on your barrel, causing jamming because the barrel / comp clearances are now jammed with crud.

              I might have one here somewhere you can have for free if I can find it.
              Or maybe I used it as a fishing weight...

              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
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              • #8
                buffybuster
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 2615

                Originally posted by jlh95811
                Not so much a weight issue as a coolness factor. I want to custom it out and make it look very nice.
                Well, if it's only for the coolness factor....... then by all means have at it....... and anyone that sees it that knows something about these things will know what it is..... a useless addon for people who want to look "cool".
                Luck favors the prepared.

                The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

                "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  kmca
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2371

                  Just for the record, you don't need a threaded barrel to fit a comp. Plenty of guns have been fitted with a bushing and compensator. Now days, you might consider an STI TruBor barrel with reverse plug and full length guide rod.

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                  • #10
                    wilshire1412
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 610

                    I have had experience with a couple of different 1911 types with comps installed. The fact is that in these days the use of a comp on a .45 is a bit anachronistic, meaning it simply is not done anymore. If you want the gun to look cool then just go ahead and get the bushing comp and put it on the pistol, just don't allow any cutting to be done on the slide or anywhere else that will prevent the reversal of your decision. If you want a real comp gun then you will need to find a gunsmith that will do the real conversion, it will not be cheap and it will be permanent at least for the slide and barrel you are using. I shot with a .45 comp gun for a while in the '80s and early '90s and they can be fun, but you really need to load your own ammo with light bullets and high velocity to make it work right. My suggestion is to either leave the comp idea alone or do the bushing comp if you want it for appearance.

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                    • #11
                      RedDawn
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 2234

                      The only benefit I see of the bushing compensator, aside from appearance, is that you don't need the 1911 wrench to turn and take out the bushing to field strip your 1911.
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                      "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

                      -- Thomas Jefferson, 1764
                      *Excerpts from "On Crimes and Punishment" by Cesare Beccaria

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                      • #12
                        jlb
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 624

                        I put a similar one on my 1911...just a bushing type compensator...I had to modify it a bit to fit my gun and then when I shot it..it totally f**ked my gun up...had to send it back to the S&W so they could fix it, which they did with no questions for free and I had my gun back in 5 days
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                        • #13
                          RedDawn
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                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 2234

                          Originally posted by jlb
                          I put a similar one on my 1911...just a bushing type compensator...I had to modify it a bit to fit my gun and then when I shot it..it totally f**ked my gun up...had to send it back to the S&W so they could fix it, which they did with no questions for free and I had my gun back in 5 days
                          What was damaged?
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                          "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

                          -- Thomas Jefferson, 1764
                          *Excerpts from "On Crimes and Punishment" by Cesare Beccaria

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                          • #14
                            jlb
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 624

                            they said the sear broke, the main spring was bent, and they replaced the hammer for me......

                            I think my barrel would hit the last part of the comp and it wouldn't allow the slide to completely cycle all the way back and the hammer would follow the slide back forward making my SA 1911 tri-burst
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                            • #15
                              RedDawn
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 2234

                              Sounds about right, if the hole for the compensator isn't large enough. That being said, if it is large enough to accommodate the upward angle of the barrel as the slide moves back, it's too large to do any good as a compensator
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                              "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

                              -- Thomas Jefferson, 1764
                              *Excerpts from "On Crimes and Punishment" by Cesare Beccaria

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