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ZEV trigger kit on Glock 19 install and table top review (vs 25 cent trigger job)

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  • #61
    MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    Finally got to test the fire control. The limited changes, springs and polishing has improved my shooting the handgun in a substantial way. Previously, the break was more of a wall where I would stumble trying to break through. Now, I am flowing through the break, still a discernible stop but no longer a hiccup.

    Mission accomplished. Onto putting rounds down range.

    Notes - a little grease on the connector, the striker trigger bar contact point and the safety plunger helps smooth things as well. It doesn't take a lot, and shouldn't be an issue unless you pile it on.
    Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-12-2016, 9:22 AM.

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    • #62
      Rhyyke
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2128

      Originally posted by HopetonBrown
      Spend 15 minutes a day dry firing. That works on the most critical part of the fire control group; your finger.

      http://pistol-training.com/archives/5185
      This is really good advice. 15-20 minutes a day for a month drastically improved my consistency.

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      • #63
        MarikinaMan
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 4864

        Btw, I do dry fire almost everyday, maybe 5 minutes, but also practice with a Browning Buckmark. About 500 rounds a month, and another 200/month on the Glock, since I got it.

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        • #64
          MarikinaMan
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 4864

          Originally posted by HopetonBrown
          Don't lube the safety plunger.
          I applied a film of grease on the surface of the plunger that touches the trigger bar. I should wipe it off? May I ask why? I did not lube the plunger and spring assembly.

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          • #65
            MarikinaMan
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 4864

            Thanks! Much appreciated.

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            • #66
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 18901

              OP-
              Nice write up.... good pics....


              I am going to be a jerk and ask when type of coach you are using to improve your shooting? Classes or an individual instructor....


              My personal experience has been small gain to no gains while trying to get better.... then taking a few classes and making huge jumps forward with my skill....



              I have friends who added a red dot onto a rifle and then grew frustrated that they were not a ninja.....

              Tools can make things better, but if I want to get better....
              It's a golf pro, not new clubs...
              It's Skip Barber racing school, not new rims
              It's guitar lessons, not a new guitar..
              It's EMT classes, not a surgical kit
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #67
                heidad01
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 4902

                Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                I applied a film of grease on the surface of the plunger that touches the trigger bar. I should wipe it off? May I ask why? I did not lube the plunger and spring assembly.
                No biggy if there is not a dab of grease there. It is more important to have that plunger polished shiny. I always oil any metal to metal contact even if it is just rubbing my oily finger over it. If you are not going to combat in a dust storm, Why run it dry. You are going to clean it again after one or a few range trips anyways.

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                • #68
                  MarikinaMan
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 4864

                  I'm not taking a class on handguns right now. I purchased a new handgun as my old hd was retired. The improvements are more for getting it to how I'd like it to be and making it mine. The improvements I've made are more akin to getting it to a state of a well used gun that is properly broken in. Just faster

                  Getting better at shooting is another matter. I know, practice and instructions are very important. Thank you.
                  Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-12-2016, 2:55 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Red9
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2872

                    Tagged
                    Never enough reloading stuff

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                    • #70
                      Matrixmadman
                      Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 256

                      Very informative. Tagged. Thanks OP

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                      • #71
                        MarikinaMan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 4864

                        After a couple months of range use and experimentation with different combinations, I have come to find that a broken in safety plunger spring (I have the Glock Store kit) can get too weak to reset the safety if you pull the trigger to just before the break and let go.

                        If you do this, and you do not nudge the trigger back to safe, you are possibly reholstering a HOT gun.

                        It will reset the safety if you charge the slide or fire the gun. But not in the situation described above.

                        I took out the lightened safety plunger spring. You need that spring strong enough to push the trigger shoe back to a safe status. Ef that.
                        Last edited by MarikinaMan; 05-07-2016, 9:47 AM.

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                        • #72
                          jspexae102
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 12

                          I have a Zev trigger on my 34. I'm keeping it because it's decent but it's definitely not something I would buy again.

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                          • #73
                            MarikinaMan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 4864

                            Originally posted by HopetonBrown

                            1. Not trying to be nitpicky, but the definition of a hot gun is one with a round in the chamber.

                            1.Sounds like a trigger return spring issue, not a safety plunger spring one.
                            On number 1, the scenario is round in the chamber and you press the trigger but do not fire. If you reholster, the handgun will have a round in the chamber and is not in safety.

                            Number 2, I did comparative tests. The safety plunger spring helps push out the trigger shoe safety. With the light spring, it will not reset if you let go after pressing it. With the stock safety plunger spring, you can play with the safety, each time you depress it, it will spring back.

                            These are my observations. I could be wrong.
                            Last edited by MarikinaMan; 05-10-2016, 3:38 PM.

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                            • #74
                              Cuda440
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 3289

                              Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                              On number 1, the scenario is round in the chamber and you press the trigger but do not fire. If you reholster, the handgun will have a round in the chamber and is not in safety.

                              Number 2, I did comparative tests. The safety plunger spring helps push out the trigger shoe safety. With the light spring, it will not reset if you let go after pressing it. With the stock safety plunger spring, you can play with the safety, each time you depress it, it will spring back.

                              These are my observations. I could be wrong.
                              Just wondering out loud, but looking at your previous pics it looks like the ZEV trigger bar is shaped with a concave curve on the part that pushes the firing pin safety plunger- that would give the lighter spring more leverage to push the trigger back forward as opposed to a straight slope like the factory trigger bar

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