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  • MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    ZEV trigger kit on Glock 19 install and table top review (vs 25 cent trigger job)

    I have a 5 month old G19 with about 800 rounds through.

    I can shoot it ok, but I find the trigger break to be pretty bad. It's a mushy wall that will mess up my grouping if I don't focus hard. It makes shooting 15-20-25 yards much harder, personally, than it should be.

    Enter the ZEV trigger. This thing costs a bunch. A lot of people say it's one of the best, and with Brownells 100% money back guarantee, I thought I'd give it a try.

    Stock trigger for later comparison


    Pulled out the fire control system



    Taking out the striker was not hard at all.


    Slapping this in.


    The process is straight forward and quite simple. If you trust yourself with tools around your gun, you can doh eeet!



    I'm going to take the gun to the range later today to test it, but here's my initial table top review.

    Assembly issues? Minimal. I dropped in the polished safety plunger with the kit spring and the spring ended up sitting in there sideways. I did not know this and I couldn't get the gun to safely reset. It would set off the striker and fire on reset. NOT GOOD. The manual does say to do tests, and it's good practice to do a full function check after every disassembly. I stripped the gun, found the problem and reassembled. Reset issue sol-ved.

    How does the trigger feel? I basically installed the 3 pound duty striker spring, the polished plunger, spring, trigger bar, race connector and trigger. It's ok. The pre-travel feels the same. Not changed at all. The over travel is the same, my original trigger was good with that. The trigger break is much improved. Gone is that mushy heavy wall. That wall was what I hated about the trigger in the first place. Mission accomplished, SOMEWHAT.

    I don't feel like I need all the stuff included in the kit to achieve this. More on this in the end.

    Adjustments - I didn't find the adjustments very useful. The pre-travel does adjust, but the safety will get disabled before I can get it anywhere that I feel would be an improvement. The over travel was fine in my stock trigger, and I did not feel a need to adjust with the new one.

    Table top conclusion - I feel that the improvement in the trigger break is substantial. It will likely improve my groupings. With the 3 pound striker spring, I feel it's ok for carry and HD. It does not create a scary light trigger, pretty stock pull, just an improved break.

    Why is it SOMEWHAT mission accomplished? I spent 175 bucks on the system, and I theorize that a 25 cent Glock trigger job and a Lone Wolf connector may get me the same thing. I'd bought the ZEV thinking I'll get something out of the adjustments. I'd worked on adjusting the pre-travel extensively and there was no discernible improvement in the take up without disabling the safety. To that point, the pre-travel adjustment is useless. Over travel, didn't need it.

    I have 30 days where I can return the trigger. I'm going ahead and doing a 25 cent Glock trigger job and test it with the kit race connector for a full comparison of the two. Now that I've completely stripped the Glock and seen what I've seen, I think the striker, connector and trigger bar interface is what affects the trigger break. If I can get the same results with a little elbow grease and just the connector, the trigger is going back.
    Last edited by MarikinaMan; 01-30-2016, 12:12 PM.
  • #2
    Blackhawk556
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 4179

    Good luck. The Fulcrum trigger on mine pulls at 5#. Way too heavy for me.

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    • #3
      JCMILLER
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 147

      I am thinking about a trigger for my 23. I have been looking at GlockKraft. It looks like an easy installation.
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      • #4
        pdaddy
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 272

        Thanks in advance for the report- I also like the color scheme. Thanks again.

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        • #5
          MarikinaMan
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 4864

          Originally posted by JCMILLER
          I am thinking about a trigger for my 23. I have been looking at GlockKraft. It looks like an easy installation.
          Just looked at the GlockCraft kit. It's very comparable to the ZEV kit. Beyond the trigger shoe, I am skeptical there would be much difference between a polished stock bar and the ZEV or GlockCraft.

          I'm going to give it a closer look but my impression is that the striker is held by the connector, that is actuated by the trigger bar which is all controlled by the trigger bar safety plunger connection. If I focused on the touch points, I think I can replicate if not do better with hand made improvements.
          Last edited by MarikinaMan; 01-30-2016, 9:12 AM.

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          • #6
            MarikinaMan
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 4864

            Here is pic of the trigger system.



            Working the contact points and getting the stock components from a stamped to a polished and machined finish, WITHOUT taking material off that will change their dimensions, I feel, can get me what I want.

            Just thinking at this point. I've already got the mod trigger, I just like to tinker.

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            • #7
              Mute
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 8410

              I've tried the Zev triggers, and while they do improve the stock trigger, it does not feel like a $100+ dollar improvement.
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              • #8
                glockman19
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 10486

                OP, why didn't you spend $24 and just install a 3.5# Glock trigger?

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                • #9
                  Glocked@45
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1025

                  What I found for myself after experimenting and spending unnecessary money on my triggers is that a good 25 cent job, a 6lb trigger spring, a 3.5 connector which is a total cost 25 bucks is all I need.

                  The rest is trigger time, lots of it.

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                  • #10
                    MarikinaMan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 4864

                    Originally posted by Mute
                    I've tried the Zev triggers, and while they do improve the stock trigger, it does not feel like a $100+ dollar improvement.
                    That is true.

                    When it come to gear, incremental improvements come at exponential increases in cost. It's like a Bentley and a Toyota Avalon. Ok, the Bentley is better, but 100,000 dollars better? That's how I think of it. If you want, and can afford it, go for it.

                    The thing with the ZEV trigger is, is it actually giving me something I can't make on my work bench? If I can't get the trigger to feel close to the ZEV, I'll keep it

                    The adventure continues.

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                    • #11
                      Glocked@45
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                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1025

                      BTW great photos OP.

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                      • #12
                        MarikinaMan
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                        • Nov 2015
                        • 4864

                        Originally posted by glockman19
                        OP, why didn't you spend $24 and just install a 3.5# Glock trigger?
                        Because I play with guns in the isolation of my garage. I don't have gun buddies who have stuff I can test or opinions I can ask for. I live in a very liberal enclave in West LA. I am so far removed from like minded folks, I'm even careful transporting rifles from my house into my car. If one of those hot self absorbed kale eating granola munching gluten sensitive yoga pants wearing moms even sees the shadow of a black evil gun, BHPD will come a knockin.

                        I purchased the high end kit to try it out. Without trying it out, I'll always have that nagging thought inside my head, would the ZEV offer anything more than a 25 cent trigger job? The purchase was not about cost, as I did buy it already, but about what do I get?

                        Brownells offers a 100% satisfaction guarantee. They get my business, and my returns as well
                        Last edited by MarikinaMan; 01-30-2016, 9:53 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Glocked@45
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1025

                          Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                          Because I play with guns in the isolation of my garage. I don't have gun buddies who I have stuff I can test. I live in a very liberal enclave in West LA. I'm careful transporting rifles into my car. If those hot yoga pant wearing mom even see the shadow of a black evil gun, BHPD will come a knockin.

                          I purchased the high end kit to try it out. Without trying it out, I'll always have that nagging thought inside my head, should does the ZEV offer anything more than a 25 cent trigger job?

                          Brownells offers a 100% satisfaction guarantee. They get my business, and my returns as well
                          I used to be a solo gun guy. Make your circle bigger by going to local Cal Gun shoots and engage in conversation.

                          Lots of good guys with useful knowledge, nothing wrong with tinkering I love being alone in my garage and working on something.

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                          • #14
                            MarikinaMan
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                            • Nov 2015
                            • 4864

                            Originally posted by Glocked@45
                            I used to be a solo gun guy. Make your circle bigger by going to local Cal Gun shoots and engage in conversation.

                            Lots of good guys with useful knowledge, nothing wrong with tinkering I love being alone in my garage and working on something.
                            That is a great idea. I'll look into it. I have been a gun owner for over 20 years. I just started looking into them recreationally in the last 5 months. My son went to school in the Midwest and came back with the smell of gun powder A lot of this is new to me.

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                            • #15
                              BarrettM99
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 2199

                              Nice job on your installation. I bought the whole Zev upgrade kit for my 34. I'm installing it now. I hope the trigger feels better.
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