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  • blindman
    Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 248

    AR pistol issues

    hi guys, i'm running into a little issue with my pistol and wanted some opinions on what the possible problem could be. this was a budget build so i know the parts could have been better.

    issue is the gun doesn't always go into full battery. i'm running a 7.5" wylde barrel. ammo used are reloads, but have been headspace guaged prior to reloading. once fired the brass is ejecting to the 4/5 o'clock position around 5-7' out. swapping the bcg into my rifle functions fine. moving my rifle bcg to the pistol also has battery problems. bcg moves fine without a round in the gun. i'm thinking it may be the barrel, but wanted some opinions before i shell out for another barrel.
  • #2
    LeadFarmer74
    Veteran Member
    • May 2015
    • 3105

    Look into the barrel and buffer assembly.
    NRA Lifer
    Originally posted by Click Boom
    I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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    • #3
      skyungjae
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 566

      You might wanna pull the buffer and spring from your rifle and swap that out to see if it helps. This is assuming you're using a pistol tube which uses a carbine spring and buffer and you're rifle is also running a carbine spring and buffer.
      Keeper of Cold Steel
      USMC/2111

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      • #4
        blindman
        Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 248

        Originally posted by LeadFarmer74
        Look into the barrel and buffer assembly.
        Originally posted by skyungjae
        You might wanna pull the buffer and spring from your rifle and swap that out to see if it helps. This is assuming you're using a pistol tube which uses a carbine spring and buffer and you're rifle is also running a carbine spring and buffer.
        thanks. i'll try swapping out the spring and buffer.

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        • #5
          Chunky_lover
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 1938

          I had a cheap kit where the tube was actually 1/4 shorter then other tubes I had bought
          so that was enough to keep the bolt from going back far enough
          once that was changed, and at the same time my buffer was falling apart I put in a H buffer that solved any issues I had


          if you have another tube laying around like on a rifle measure the inside depth
          and compare to your pistol
          see if its shorter


          my only issue was bolt not locking back 100% of the time on empty mag using that shorter buffer tube
          sigpic

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          • #6
            skyungjae
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 566



            I actually had short stroking issues with this build back from 2009. I swapped out the STT2 buffer with a standard buffer and it ran flawlessly after that.

            People often underestimate how crucial the buffer/spring set up is on the AR platform.
            Keeper of Cold Steel
            USMC/2111

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            • #7
              blindman
              Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 248

              Should I look at the h or the h2 buffer? I know I know buy both. Just trying not to spend extra if I don't have to

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              • #8
                LeadFarmer74
                Veteran Member
                • May 2015
                • 3105

                Originally posted by blindman
                Should I look at the h or the h2 buffer? I know I know buy both. Just trying not to spend extra if I don't have to
                I run a h2 in my 11.5.
                NRA Lifer
                Originally posted by Click Boom
                I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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                • #9
                  3rd_gear
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 586

                  I ran an h2 in my 11.5. With 5.56 and full power 223, like Hornady TAP, it was flawless. With budget 223 ammo, I had FTE or FTF every time. I switched to a normal buffer and now everything runs fine, except that brass is thrown out very far.
                  Figured out that my gas port was too big for normal buffer and not big enough for h2, unless only shooting 5.56.
                  Last edited by 3rd_gear; 01-25-2016, 6:06 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Calico1404
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 3401

                    Make sure your buffer take the bolt. Spring and buffer weight all the way past your bolt catch. I took my pistol out and realized i wasnt cyclying far enough back forna full forward slam. My buffer tube was hollowed short. Take off your lower push your bolt into your buffer all the way back. See where you sit. X's 2 on chuckys comment

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                    • #11
                      blindman
                      Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 248

                      ok. got home a little while ago and finally had a chance to look at the spring and buffer. measured the inside of both tubes and they both measured 7" deep. weighed both buffers at 3.0 each and the same length. now the spring is a different story. black is the pistol spring

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                      • #12
                        Tere_Hanges
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 6268

                        Did you clean and lube the BCG real good? If its a NiB, they can be sticky if you dont lube em up first.
                        CRPA and NRA member.

                        Note that those who have repeatedly expressed enough vile and incoherent content as to render your views irrelevant, have been placed on my ignore list. Thank you for helping me improve my experience and direct my attention towards those who are worthy of it. God bless your toxic little souls.

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                        • #13
                          blindman
                          Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 248

                          Originally posted by lightcav
                          Did you clean and lube the BCG real good? If its a NiB, they can be sticky if you dont lube em up first.
                          bcg is fine. tried it in my rifle without any issues and moved my rifle's bcg to the pistol and still had issues
                          Last edited by blindman; 01-25-2016, 9:35 PM.

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                          • #14
                            skyungjae
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 566

                            I'd try trading springs and see how that goes... then hit up some of those downhill trails with the visiting WC teams.
                            Keeper of Cold Steel
                            USMC/2111

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                            • #15
                              WRXKid
                              Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 358

                              looks like Chinese spring? I used an Ebay buffer tube and spring and had the exact same problem. The buffer tube was actually a tit hair too long and the upper wouldn't go into full lock. I had to shave the buffer tube down to clear the upper. Doing that made the buffer drag slightly against the tube (stupid burrs) and slow the BCG down enough keep the round out of battery. Imagine how long that took to figure out.
                              From what it sounds like, it's probably a buffer kit thing and not the barrel or BCG.

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