1911 mag release issues

[nothinghere2c]

Hey 1911 gurus,

So when i take my AO 1911 to the range, after about 2-3 mags through it once it warms up the magazine release starts doing the following...

-if the slide is locked back, i insert a new mag and drop the slide using the magazine release, it loads a round and enters battery fine

-if the slide is locked back, i insert a new mag and pull the slide back using the overhand method and let it go, the slide release pops out slightly and jams the gun (i am not applying finger pressure on the protruding button of the slide release from the other side of the frame btw)

what needs to be done to fix this? i tried just swapping the slide release with a wilson combat one and it didnt help. does this gun need to head to a gunsmith for some fitting work?

[bwhited]

Sounds like the magazine is pushing the slide release out a little bit.
When you use the slide release lever you are actually pushing it back in.
Slingshoting must be catching just enough to cause the issue.

You could try adding so tension to the plunger spring (pull it so that it is longer). This may or may not work.

A good 1911 smith could adjust angles to keep this from happening.

[RamonSJC]

Interesting.

Not a gunsmith and I am starting a 1911 build.

So when you chamber a round via slide release say the entire range trip it' ok?

How is the recoil spring, guide rod and barrel link?

[nothinghere2c]

Interesting.

Not a gunsmith and I am starting a 1911 build.

So when you chamber a round via slide release say the entire range trip it' ok?

How is the recoil spring, guide rod and barrel link?

yea, like bwhited noted, when i use the slide release with my thumb, i'm applying pressure and keeping it in.

the gun is fairly new, i've shot maybe 300 rounds through it but the slide release and barrel link have always been sloppy since i bought it. it takes practically no effort to bump it out unlike my Springfield where it feels more solid and locked in place

[nothinghere2c]

Sounds like the magazine is pushing the slide release out a little bit.
When you use the slide release lever you are actually pushing it back in.
Slingshoting must be catching just enough to cause the issue.

You could try adding so tension to the plunger spring (pull it so that it is longer). This may or may not work.

A good 1911 smith could adjust angles to keep this from happening.

yeah, it seems to happen more often with real 230gr ball ammo, almost like the round is pushing on it. when i tried to reproduce it with my snap caps, it took a while to get it to do it.

[kozumasbullitt]

I would look at the slide stop plunger and how the detent is fitting into the slide stop.

[Barbarosa]

I would look at the slide stop plunger and how the detent is fitting into the slide stop.

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Maybe detent is bad or the little spot it clicks in is worn.

[bwhited]

The bullet can make a difference since 230 ball ammo is know to be more likely to hit the slide stop. The wide nose of the bullet is what makes contact.

Use a SWC and the issue will probably not occur.

yeah, it seems to happen more often with real 230gr ball ammo, almost like the round is pushing on it. when i tried to reproduce it with my snap caps, it took a while to get it to do it.

[bwhited]

Yup, that is an angle that needs to be correct.
That is also why increasing the plunger spring pressure may take care of the issue.
But the real issue may be the ball ammo is hitting the slide stop. To fix this the slide stop would need to be narrower.

I would look at the slide stop plunger and how the detent is fitting into the slide stop.

[nothinghere2c]

thanks guys, makes sense

[L-2]

I got lost in the first post at "magazine release" and how it's dropping the slide.

[nothinghere2c]

I got lost in the first post at "magazine release" and how it's dropping the slide.

yea now that i re-read my original post i see the mistake haha
funny how what you're thinking at the time sometimes translates into text

[L-2]

Did you get it figured out yet? I don't understand how the slide-stop has time to be pushed out of the take-down notch, as the slide typically moving fairly fast as the take-down notch is passing the slide-stop lobe.

[Sailormilan2]

Five things.
First. You did get a slide stop for a 45 acp, and not one for a 9mm? They are different in length.
Second. What is the length of the part that contacts the mag follower? From the outside to the inside? There is a chance that it is a bit too long and the rounds are hitting it and forcing it out. Though, usually when that happens, it forces the slide stop up and locks the slide back.
Third. The slide stop has a shoulder/shelf that sticks up and is seperated from the main body by a gap. The part that sticks up is there to prevent the problem you are having
Fourth. Are you sure you are getting it pushed completly into place when you install it?
Fifth. Are you left handed? If you're left handed and have your right hand on the right side of the gun, you could be pushing against the pin.

[JTROKS]

Where in the Bay Area are you? If the weather is good this Saturday I'll be shooting at Richmond R&G. I can take a look at your Auto Ord 1911 if you want.