CA - Locked Case

[crimtide]

Guys / Girls,

I am going to be traveling next week and since I don't have a CCW, my only option is transport my pistol in a locked case. I have a pelican hard sided case but it is rather large and a pain to take when space is at a premium while traveling ( Driving ). So my question is does this soft sided case with a pad lock meet the CA locked case qualifications?



Thanks,

Crimtide

[garion]

good question....I saw a similar thing at the store yesterday...with lockable ykk zippers.....yeah tis really weird thre are locks for the zippers so they can't travel in the "opening" direction until you unlocking...

but i wasn't sure if this counted as "locked"

[rodog]

+1 good question, I know the weapon has to be locked and ammo kept seperately but don't know if a soft-sided locked holder is. I have a gun vault that is approved by the DOJ for transport (per the gun vault website) and comes in a couple of different sizes and can be cable locked to your car to help someone from stealing the thing. Cost has a little over a hundred if that would be an option or even a briefcase sized gun case, (just keep your ammo in a seperate container). HTH.

[Shane916]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=132807

[NiteQwill]

+1 good question, I know the weapon has to be locked and ammo kept seperately

No, they do not.

[shoupdawg]

I believe this is okay. I wouldn't put it in my car...I'd put it in my trunk just in case. When I took my basic handgun course and the instructor showed us some really simple looking cases and showed us some cases that looked like they wouldn't be approved, but he said they were perfectly fine. He's a reserve officer and trains LEO as a regular full time job.

[Librarian]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=132807

That thread has pretty much all the needed discussion - short answer "yes, it ought to be OK", because "secure" is not defined.

"Fully enclosed" and "locked" are hardly ambiguous, and the pictured case is both.

[rodog]

No, they do not.

I stand corrected.

[ck867]

if your car has a trunk, i believe that counts as a locked container already

[howiesatwork]

+1 good question, I know the weapon has to be locked and ammo kept seperately but don't know if a soft-sided locked holder is. I have a gun vault that is approved by the DOJ for transport (per the gun vault website) and comes in a couple of different sizes and can be cable locked to your car to help someone from stealing the thing. Cost has a little over a hundred if that would be an option or even a briefcase sized gun case, (just keep your ammo in a seperate container). HTH.

Can someone point me to the law that says the firearm and ammo must be kept seperate from one another when transporting a firearm in a locked container?
I did not even find that the firearm had to be unloaded.
I have everything in a Storm case with two padlocks, and that sure keeps it out of my reach when driving.

[NiteQwill]

Can someone point me to the law that says the firearm and ammo must be kept seperate from one another when transporting a firearm in a locked container?
I did not even find that the firearm had to be unloaded.
I have everything in a Storm case with two padlocks, and that sure keeps it out of my reach when driving.

No one can give you the law for "ammo & gun separate" because it doesn't exist.

[Librarian]

Can someone point me to the law that says the firearm and ammo must be kept seperate from one another when transporting a firearm in a locked container?
I did not even find that the firearm had to be unloaded.
I have everything in a Storm case with two padlocks, and that sure keeps it out of my reach when driving.

As NiteQwill said. And unloaded is a combination of PC 12031 and PC 12026.1 and .2 link

[garion]

if your car has a trunk, i believe that counts as a locked container already

true but i think it has to be in a locked container say when you walk from your car to the range....at least that is what i was told...(that you could get in trouble if a LEO stops you etc and find that during the walk from the car to the range the firearm is not secured)

but a trunk is technically enough......say if you drove home went into your garage closed the door...etc....

(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any
motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm,
the firearm is contained within a locked container.

[Salty]

Was told in Hunters ED: "Nothing says it has to be made out of cast iron" and "A backpack with a lock on it is all you need".

People have been using soft sided gun cases for decades upon decades with no issues. By my observation, they may even out number hard sided cases. So I wouldn't worry about it.

[Salty]

true but i think it has to be in a locked container say when you walk from your car to the range....at least that is what i was told...(that you could get in trouble if a LEO stops you etc and find that during the walk from the car to the range the firearm is not secured)

but a trunk is technically enough......say if you drove home went into your garage closed the door...etc....

(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any
motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm,
the firearm is contained within a locked container.

I'm not going to get into the details (will leave that for someone who knows the laws a bit better) but that all depends on where you are (i.e. in a school zone, etc.). There are plenty of places where you are not required to keep it locked up. However most ranges have their own safety rules that require you to bring in only guns that are in locked containers.