FN 5.7 Mk2

[galaxius]

The LCI does not meet CA's requirement for a CLI.

The Five-seven IOM and USG were added to the Roster before 2007, when only a MDM was required to get listed.

Humm, did not know that. Not sure if the LCI was a requirement when the Mk2 was listed though, however it is on the roster.

[Quiet]

Humm, did not know that. Not sure if the LCI was a requirement when the Mk2 was listed though, however it is on the roster.

The Five-seven MK2 was added to the Roster using an exemption (which it qualifies for, since the Five-seven USG was already listed). [PC 32030]



Penal Code 32030
(a) A firearm shall be deemed to satisfy the requirements of subdivision (a) of Section 32015 if another firearm made by the same manufacturer is already listed and the unlisted firearm differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of the following features:
(1) Finish, including, but not limited to, bluing, chrome-plating, oiling, or engraving.
(2) The material from which the grips are made.
(3) The shape or texture of the grips, so long as the difference in grip shape or texture does not in any way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(4) Any other purely cosmetic feature that does not in any way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(b) Any manufacturer seeking to have a firearm listed under this section shall provide to the Department of Justice all of the following:
(1) The model designation of the listed firearm.
(2) The model designation of each firearm that the manufacturer seeks to have listed under this section.
(3) A statement, under oath, that each unlisted firearm for which listing is sought differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of the ways identified in subdivision (a) and is in all other respects identical to the listed firearm.
(c) The department may, in its discretion and at any time, require a manufacturer to provide to the department any model for which listing is sought under this section, to determine whether the model complies with the requirements of this section.

[galaxius]

The Five-seven MK2 was added to the Roster using an exemption (which it qualifies for, since the Five-seven USG was already listed).

Interesting information. BTW what are the LCI requirements? Do they have to be as blatant and disgusting as the S&W versions?

[Quiet]

Interesting information. BTW what are the LCI requirements? Do they have to be as blatant and disgusting as the S&W versions?

CA requires a Chamber Load Indicator (CLI) [PC 16380], not a Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI).

All Chamber Load Indicators are Loaded Chamber Indicators, but not all Loaded Chamber Indicators are Chamber Load Indicators.

Chamber Load Indicator (CLI) on the S&W M&P Shield...


Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI) on the S&W M&P Shield...



Penal Code 16380
As used in this part, "chamber load indicator" means a device that plainly indicates that a cartridge is in the firing chamber. A device satisfies this definition if it is readily visible, has incorporated or adjacent explanatory text or graphics, or both, and is designed and intended to indicate to a reasonably foreseeable adult user of the pistol, without requiring the user to refer to a user's manual or any other resource other than the pistol itself, whether a cartridge is in the firing chamber.

[galaxius]

Penal Code 16380
".....A device satisfies this definition if it is readily visible, has incorporated or adjacent explanatory text or graphics...."

[Steve1968LS2]

Well if you have one PSA is pretty much giving away ammo.. lol

Well.. not free.. but I've never seen it cheaper..

http://palmettostatearmory.com/catalog/product/view/id/12450/

[galaxius]

Well if you have one PSA is pretty much giving away ammo.. lol

Well.. not free.. but I've never seen it cheaper..

http://palmettostatearmory.com/catal...view/id/12450/

Thats a pretty good price, I picked up ~2k of SS197 (FN 40gr) for 16/box of 50 a couple months back...wish I woulda waited.

[IVC]

Interesting information. BTW what are the LCI requirements? Do they have to be as blatant and disgusting as the S&W versions?

Not to nitpick, but that's a Sig.

To answer your question, the definition kept "evolving." Many guns "passed" with basic LCI until DOJ tightened it up. Of course, it's all moot point now due to microstamping.

[galaxius]

Not to nitpick, but that's a Sig.

To answer your question, the definition kept "evolving." Many guns "passed" with basic LCI until DOJ tightened it up. Of course, it's all moot point now due to microstamping.

Ah yea, thats ok - my buddy has a S&W SV40 and its very similar but the text is on the indicator itself. It actually obstructs the sights a bit, very annoying to shoot.

[10rounds]

I have a friend that ordered the 5.7 Mk2 with Turners about 3-4 months ago. It took about four weeks.