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  • #16
    stix213
    AKA: Joe Censored
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2009
    • 18998

    Colt consistently makes all the wrong decisions whenever possible. They have had the hit TV show The Walking Dead showing off a Colt Python for years giving them incredible free advertising. They can see used prices through the roof.

    So you can be absolutely sure they will not make any more of them.

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    • #17
      stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 18998

      Originally posted by oddjob
      As I understand it the machinery for Colt's revolvers are worn out.
      Manufacturing machinery wears out and gets replaced in any industry all the time. S&W has figured out how to deal with it, why can't Colt?

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      • #18
        Killer Bee
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2197

        Originally posted by Erion929
        I have both.....how much ya got?
        oh you tease

        Originally posted by stix213
        Manufacturing machinery wears out and gets replaced in any industry all the time. S&W has figured out how to deal with it, why can't Colt?
        actually, this is the fundamental reason Colt won't be renewing all but two of their 1911 models on the roster..
        No More Colt 1911s In California?

        more notable in this situation was amidst the Remington takeover of Marlin..
        Marlin 1894 Rifle Review
        I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it

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        • #19
          KHF1222
          Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 217

          Colt moved Python production to the Colt Custom Shop in 1997. Thereafter the Python had the designation 'Python Elite' roll marked on
          the barrel to be known as the Colt Python Elite. The Colt Python Elite was the same exact revolver as the standard Python with the
          exception of only the roll mark on the barrel being different.

          It appears the Colt Python referred to on the California Roster is identified as Model Number I3060CS which is actually a Colt Python
          Elite Revolver in stainless steel in 357 magnum with a 6" barrel.

          I do not think Colt is going to re-introduce the Python revolver anytime in the foreseeable future. That does not mean that Colt
          Manufacturing as we speak is not at least exploring the costs for investment in tooling and machining, evaluating the core competency
          of the technical skills available in assemblers and gunsmiths to support a production line building Pythons, and performing product
          marketing analysis which would be necessary to go forward with any attempt to reintroduce the Python double action revolver as a
          cataloged item off the production floor or as a Custom Shop offering that would be available to California gun buyers at an
          acceptable price point.

          Without the requirement for a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect feature, and micro-stamping, there no insurmountable
          headwinds that Colt would need to face to be certified on the California Roster other than the basic safety requirements the
          California Roster imposes on testing revolvers, nor would they be limited to a particular model they may attempt to introduce to the
          California market. Whether Colt does bring back a Python model or not is completely unknown.

          Why would Colt Manufacturing pay the fee to list a revolver on the California Roster that is no longer in current production?
          Colt would do so to maintain visibility, preserve customer goodwill, and promote continued brand recognition of Colt in the
          California market. The $200 renewal fee in that instance would be a just good business practice at a relatively low cost.

          So for now by Colt Manufacturing maintaining the I3060CS Python on the California Roster it allows for importation and resale of
          I3060CS Pythons from other states to California residents, and supports the ability for California residents to ship their I3060CS
          Pythons to a distant California resident where a face-to-face PPT would not be required by the receiving FFL. In order to be eligible
          for shipping the I3060CS Python model must be on the roster, and the I3060CS Python handgun must be in its exact original
          configuration as tested and accepted by the CA DOJ for listing on the roster.

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          • #20
            Gryff
            CGSSA Coordinator
            • May 2006
            • 12686

            Originally posted by stix213
            Colt consistently makes all the wrong decisions whenever possible. They have had the hit TV show The Walking Dead showing off a Colt Python for years giving them incredible free advertising. They can see used prices through the roof.

            So you can be absolutely sure they will not make any more of them.
            Should Ford reissue the GT40 but with a Mustang's six-cylinder engine? That's what Colt would have to do with the Python if they were going to keep at an affordable price point. The hand finishing that went into the original Python (which is what made it iconic), would force a re-issue at the same quality level to be priced over $2K.
            My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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            • #21
              Sunday
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 5574

              Actually slicked up S@W revolvers are nicer to shoot than a Colt Python. I have shot both extensively years ago. The Python is a beautiful Revolver though.
              California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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              • #22
                Dvrjon
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2012
                • 11362

                Originally posted by Sunday
                Actually slicked up S@W revolvers are nicer to shoot than a Colt Python. I have shot both extensively years ago. The Python is a beautiful Revolver though.
                The difference is the Python didn't need to be "slicked up".

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                • #23
                  Gryff
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • May 2006
                  • 12686

                  Originally posted by Dvrjon
                  The difference is the Python didn't need to be "slicked up".
                  No, but the Python could never take the beating that an S&W will eat up without batting an eye (one of the reasons that so few LEAs adopted the model, or how they were rarely the platform used for custom PPC guns). But the Python is a dream straight out of the box.
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                  • #24
                    norcal77
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4231

                    The people who produced the pythons were craftsmen and they are a dying breed, the people of now will never be able to replicate that quality...

                    I've had guns sent to colt for repair or refinish and the end result does not come close to what an original finish looked like...they started goin down hill in the 80's when it comes to quality, probably because the people who mattered died


                    If you ever send something to colt ask that 'lil John' do the work, if he's still around...I notice on my invoices that whenever he did the work, it was perfect...didn't usually get him until sending the pistol back for the 3rd time
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                    • #25
                      soulbyte
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 848

                      Originally posted by stix213
                      Manufacturing machinery wears out and gets replaced in any industry all the time. S&W has figured out how to deal with it, why can't Colt?
                      Colt is moving to CNC, hence the reason why their 1911's are falling off roster.

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                      • #26
                        gsparesa
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 918

                        Anyone ever have a chance to compare the Python to a S&W 627 PC or 686 SSR?
                        Last edited by gsparesa; 01-01-2016, 4:09 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Walky Talky
                          Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 448

                          Originally posted by gsparesa
                          Anyone ever have a chance to compare the Python to a S&W 627 PC or 686 SSR?
                          I'm still hoping to do my own side-by-side comparison


                          I believe the 6 inch Python has always been on the roster. From what I've read they wouldn't be able to remanufacture the Python because of the craftsmanship required, also the machinery they used is no longer available, I personally don't subscribe to this theory and believe it's simply the result of people romanticizing something that is no longer here

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                          • #28
                            sigstroker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19681

                            Originally posted by Gryff
                            Should Ford reissue the GT40 but with a Mustang's six-cylinder engine? That's what Colt would have to do with the Python if they were going to keep at an affordable price point. The hand finishing that went into the original Python (which is what made it iconic), would force a re-issue at the same quality level to be priced over $2K.
                            Doubt it. Pythons didn't used to be much more expensive than K-frames.

                            As for how wonderful and smooth they were right out of the box, when I bought my first revolver, it was a Dan Wesson. I did the Pepsi challenge with a Python, K-frame, and Dan Wesson. The Python came in second best.

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                            • #29
                              Gryff
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              • May 2006
                              • 12686

                              Originally posted by gsparesa
                              Anyone ever have a chance to compare the Python to a S&W 627 PC or 686 SSR?
                              What do you want to know? I have a 4" Python and a 4" 686 SSR. I've also spent time shooting a 5" 627PC.
                              My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                              • #30
                                Gryff
                                CGSSA Coordinator
                                • May 2006
                                • 12686

                                Originally posted by sigstroker
                                Doubt it. Pythons didn't used to be much more expensive than K-frames.
                                Hand finishing used to be a LOT less expensive. And I believe that even back in the day, the Python was 80-100% more expensive than a K-frame.
                                My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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