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  • #31
    Germ1
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1165

    [QUOTE=anbu_yoshi;17328654

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    It's what I have on-hand without buying more and 115 gr is the most common for 9mm loads. My preference is 124 gr Gold Dots and will test those weights at a later time.[/QUOTE]

    I don't notice any difference in bullet weight in 9mm when I shoot the different bullet weights. Matter of fact I shot three rounds of Federal HST 147gr +P at a squirrel last weekend right before my shooting session and didn't notice a difference at all.(my mags were loaded with the HST 147gr, and the squirrel had to die) I shoot WWB and Tula 115gr for practice like most other people

    Also had other sessions were I mixed 115gr critical defense with 124gr +p HST and didn't notice any difference. The only time I notice a difference is out of subcompacts, +P has a little more *** on it. But far as 115, 124 or 147 they all feel the same. Pretty much shoot the same, the 147gr landed right on top of the squirrel at 15 or 20 yards. Not sure exactly on distance.
    Last edited by Germ1; 12-11-2015, 10:13 PM.

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    • #32
      MtnBksRCul
      Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 159

      Great write up. Especially on the MagGuts.

      I am DROSing one of these tomorrow.

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      • #33
        code_blue
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 3452

        Update: 12/16/15

        Ok, after talking about getting "Skanky girl, bright orange nail polish" to paint my front sight for the past week, the little lady in my life went out on her own to get me a bottle. She said she wanted to support my hobby and wanted to be involved. She then told me she wanted to build an AR together. I said I'll go buy some lowers.

        Skanky girl, bright orange nail polish




        It pops quite a bit in person; the pictures don't do the color justice. I used a toothpick to drip the nail polish into the "cup" of the front sight. Let it dry for about an hour then applied a second coat. I smoothed it out to prevent a concave or convex shape. I found that flush worked better and didn't shine.






        I liked it so much I did the same thing to my HK P2000






        Most recent target. I've gotten better; still a few flyers, but much better now that I know how to hold the pistol.

        MagGuts springs still 100% reliable. No issues of any kind.

        Last edited by code_blue; 12-16-2015, 6:54 PM.
        Classifieds:

        Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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        • #34
          ballistic
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 598

          The only things I added to my Shield was an APEX sear to sweeten up the trigger (about 40.00), and two extra mags (about 25.00 each). Works great. The factory sights are OK for me.
          Thanks for the info about the +1 mag kits.
          Last edited by ballistic; 12-18-2015, 4:07 PM.
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          • #35
            11HE9
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 771

            Thanks for all the info OP, lots of things to think about.

            I pick up my Shield this Sunday
            Last edited by 11HE9; 12-28-2015, 8:07 AM. Reason: fix typo

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            • #36
              Thesource161
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 574

              I'm going to order some magguts for my shield. Thanks for the info.

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              • #37
                code_blue
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 3452

                Another 100 rounds of FMJ and 100 rounds of mixed HP. 100% reliable.

                I have not yet cleaned this pistol. I oiled the slides a little out of the box and have shot it since.
                Classifieds:

                Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                • #38
                  gun toting monkeyboy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 6820

                  Originally posted by Germ1
                  Why you using 115gr SD?
                  You do realize that there are some decent self defense loads out there in the 115 grain range, right? Not everything has to be 124 to 147 grain to be effective. I tend to use 115 grain bullets that shoot at the same POI as the 115 grain FMJ practice bullets. It makes my life easier, and lets me practice more effectively. And the Hornady Critical Defense/Zombie Max bullets work just fine. I don't need a barrier-blind +P+ bullet. I need something that hits where I am aiming and provides enough penetration and expansion to pass the FBI testing protocols.

                  -Mb
                  Originally posted by aplinker
                  It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                  • #39
                    Sunday
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 5574

                    I tried a shield at the range last spring it was most impressive.
                    California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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                    • #40
                      Pupulepeter
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 783

                      Originally posted by ifilef
                      That is a matter of subjective opinion. If the LCI bothers the shooter he/she is not focusing on the front sight enough to shoot accurately anyway. It doesn't bother me, and by law it must be a prominent one, otherwise its purpose is defeated.
                      The LCI blocks the front sight when the weapon is loaded and makes it difficult to focus. It is a obvious design flaw.

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                      • #41
                        P5Ret
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 6381

                        Put a couple hundred rounds though mine with the Mag Guts spring kits today. Functioned flawlessly. I like the Mag Guts, but the weak spot of the system is the floor plate. As previously mentioned they are very thin and the edges are a bit sharp. The plate's are just a bit wider than the spring itself, holding it in position while the spring is compressed to get the base plate on is a PIA. They work with the OEM floor plate they are a bit tighter with the OEM but they work just fine.

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                        • #42
                          code_blue
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 3452

                          Agreed, P5. That was my determination as well as many others on various online forums.

                          I really didn't like how the MG floorplate interfered with the extended mag's attachment.
                          Classifieds:

                          Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                          • #43
                            ifilef
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 5665

                            Originally posted by Pupulepeter
                            The LCI blocks the front sight when the weapon is loaded and makes it difficult to focus. It is a obvious design flaw.
                            I look at it this way: handgun would not even be available here without a PROMINENT LCI. Whether you consider this one a design flaw is your opinion, nothing more. To each his own. Don't buy the handgun or get one off-roster for a premium price. Or modify it, but just don't have an ND or other situation with it because your liability exposure may be greater if the modification becomes known in a civil or criminal prosecution. A potential issue of GROSS negligence, not merely simple negligence, may be raised by a sharp plaintiff's attorney or prosecutor.
                            Last edited by ifilef; 12-24-2015, 12:11 AM.

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                            • #44
                              code_blue
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 3452

                              This is a parts review thread, not a discussion on hypothetical liabilities. It's America, we do what we want acknowledging the pros and cons. No need to be officious towards one another. It's knowledge and tested data to share. The end user can do with it as they please.
                              Classifieds:

                              Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                              • #45
                                Cokebottle
                                Seņor Member
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 32373

                                Originally posted by ifilef
                                I look at it this way: handgun would not even be available here without a PROMINENT LCI.
                                Once again, THIS is "prominent" enough to pass for the roster.
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