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  • #31
    Canadadry
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 1065

    Originally posted by WaltKowalski
    The legion series is pure marketing that caters to douchebags. While i myself am a sig fan, i feel my money is better spent acquiring a proven combat piece such as the mk25 and just sending it back to sig to have them enhance the trigger action. Costs the same if not less than a legion series, without the douchebaggery. I don't need to be "part of something" and have access to "exclusive" made in china items to spend even more money on. A keychain, coin, and commemorative case isnt going to save my life, but money better spent on ammo would. A "special" sig? Thats what an x5 is for.

    So if someone buys a Legion, they are a douchebag? You're a joke. Whenever, someone protest that much it's usually because they want something but know they can't have it. Shocking your conclusion spending that money would be better spent on ammo for training. Everyone knows that. How many gun owners own multiple guns, because it's fun.

    What the hell are you going to do with an X5 in the real world with 2 pound trigger pull and the fact it weighs about 5 pounds. And yes I've owned an X5. The same reason you're so outraged is the same reason you claim that an X5 is special. It's really not but sig marketed it as the ultimate competition gun.

    So you fell for Sig marketing.

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    • #32
      Barang
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2013
      • 12351

      Originally posted by WaltKowalski
      The legion series is pure marketing that caters to douchebags.
      You're paying for the upgrades so if the "d*****b***" are willing to pay for the price, what is it to you? Do you expect Sig to sell an enhanced P226 & P229 for no extra cost?

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      • #33
        RobertMW
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 2117

        Originally posted by flhxxx
        Send a 226 to Bruce Gray and call it good
        Second that.

        The legion series adds the (Gray Guns designed) SRT and the (Grey Guns designed) Intermediate Trigger with internal over-travel stop, and the (Grey Guns Inspired) ergonomic improvements, and sells it in one gun.

        The ONLY reason I want this gun to sell to some people is so that it gets put on the USPSA production list. Then I can put the intermediate trigger and reduced slide lock lever on my 226 and run it legally.
        Originally posted by kcbrown
        I'm most famous for my positive mental attitude.

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        • #34
          code_blue
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 3452

          Originally posted by WaltKowalski
          The legion series is pure marketing that caters to douchebags. While i myself am a sig fan, i feel my money is better spent acquiring a proven combat piece such as the mk25 and just sending it back to sig to have them enhance the trigger action. Costs the same if not less than a legion series, without the douchebaggery. I don't need to be "part of something" and have access to "exclusive" made in china items to spend even more money on. A keychain, coin, and commemorative case isnt going to save my life, but money better spent on ammo would. A "special" sig? Thats what an x5 is for.

          Money better spent on a non-pure marketing that catered to douchebags?

          There is no functional or ergonomic difference between the MK25 and a normal P226. MK25 doesn't even have an SRT, the corrosion resistant coating is worthless in a civilian application, and the UID sticker on the MK25 was probably made in China for you all you know.

          What you're paying extra for on a MK25 is corrosion resistant coating, a Navy anchor, and a UID sticker probably made in China. At least the similarly "combat proven" M11-A1 design has an SRT.

          Marketing did it's job for sure.
          Classifieds:

          Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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          • #35
            GucciLoco9
            Banned
            • Oct 2015
            • 40

            the legion is all about hype. if you put all the goodies in a standard, that would be ideal instead of paying the rediculous $1200-1300

            I bought my X-five for that price....just FYI

            so look at what your really buying. more gun? ...or more.........style points?

            long time sig fan, but that series is just a little too much for what it is

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            • #36
              QXSOUP
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 989

              Sig's marketing dept. has been working overtime that's for sure. M11A1? DOESN'T EXIST. It's a regular 229 with a sticker and surplus 228 grips. MK25? Its a 226 with a fancy sticker. By the way the SEALS used whatever 226's Sig was making at the time of order. There is nothing special about them at all.
              WTB: Sig P245 or P220 Compact

              STOP THE TUNNELS

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              • #37
                code_blue
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 3452

                Originally posted by QXSOUP
                Sig's marketing dept. has been working overtime that's for sure. M11A1? DOESN'T EXIST. It's a regular 229 with a sticker and surplus 228 grips. MK25? Its a 226 with a fancy sticker. By the way the SEALS used whatever 226's Sig was making at the time of order. There is nothing special about them at all.
                ^^^

                I don't even recall seeing the anchor on the slides of the P226 in internet pictures of naval armories. I'll have to find that thread over at SigTalk to confirm. The UID stickers were there for sure (although heavily worn), but the models were a mix of non-railed and railed variants.
                Last edited by code_blue; 10-28-2015, 1:04 PM.
                Classifieds:

                Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                • #38
                  xxxx
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1706

                  Originally posted by anbu_yoshi
                  Money better spent on a non-pure marketing that catered to douchebags?

                  There is no functional or ergonomic difference between the MK25 and a normal P226. MK25 doesn't even have an SRT, the corrosion resistant coating is worthless in a civilian application, and the UID sticker on the MK25 was probably made in China for you all you know.

                  What you're paying extra for on a MK25 is corrosion resistant coating, a Navy anchor, and a UID sticker probably made in China. At least the similarly "combat proven" M11-A1 design has an SRT.

                  Marketing did it's job for sure.
                  Yeah, I strongly disagree with you on the MK25. In my opinion MK25 is the best SIG for the money.

                  1) Comes with factory night sights standard, which are excellent
                  2) Mine came with a chrome lined barrel (I am not sure that all of them did) and how could you complain about corrosion resistant coating??? I think that's pretty swell.
                  3) It comes with a 1913 rail. That's pretty decent.
                  4) It comes with the short extractor, some prefer that over the long extractor.

                  Compare that to the standard SIG 226 @ $1,015.00, the MK25 @ $1,166.00 is a pretty sweet deal, and that's if you don't care about the anchor engraving.

                  The SRT is like $50 and can easily be put in.

                  I put the SRT in mine, and put the grips from Elite Dark on mine. Called it a day. I couldn't ask for more.

                  BY FAR the MK25 has the most practical features per dollar than most SIGs.

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                  • #39
                    Canadadry
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1065

                    Originally posted by GucciLoco9
                    the legion is all about hype. if you put all the goodies in a standard, that would be ideal instead of paying the rediculous $1200-1300

                    I bought my X-five for that price....just FYI

                    so look at what your really buying. more gun? ...or more.........style points?

                    long time sig fan, but that series is just a little too much for what it is


                    Try finding an X-Five for those prices these days. Used X-Five's run in the $1800 range. At least what i've come across at Cabela's.
                    Last edited by Canadadry; 10-28-2015, 1:24 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Pupulepeter
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 783

                      I'll buy a drink for the first guy who throws down a SIG Legion challenge coin at the bar. It would be worth it just to watch what happened next. That would be the ultimate mall ninja move!

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                      • #41
                        code_blue
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3452

                        Originally posted by xxxx
                        Yeah, I strongly disagree with you on the MK25. In my opinion MK25 is the best SIG for the money.

                        1) Comes with factory night sights standard, which are excellent
                        2) Mine came with a chrome lined barrel (I am not sure that all of them did) and how could you complain about corrosion resistant coating??? I think that's pretty swell.
                        3) It comes with a 1913 rail. That's pretty decent.
                        4) It comes with the short extractor, some prefer that over the long extractor.

                        Compare that to the standard SIG 226 @ $1,015.00, the MK25 @ $1,166.00 is a pretty sweet deal, and that's if you don't care about the anchor engraving.

                        The SRT is like $50 and can easily be put in.

                        I put the SRT in mine, and put the grips from Elite Dark on mine. Called it a day. I couldn't ask for more.

                        BY FAR the MK25 has the most practical features per dollar than most SIGs.

                        Looks like you're comparing new and available Sigs based on the price point. Used Sigs tend to reasonably go for under $1,000.

                        For new, the Dark Elite and Extremes are better options as they also have night sites, but also include different grips and SRT. My preference would be the Extreme since I'd change to G-10 Piranhas anyways. I dislike the aluminum grips offered on the Elite.

                        Sig night sights are "meh"; many people change them out to begin with. Available CA compliant Sigs come with NS from factory so it's not even an issue. I'd rather have contrast sights to not pay the premium then change to Trijicons.

                        Sig will transition the P226 to long extractors once the short extractor slides run out. That is what happened to the P229; no more legacy slides.

                        My preference, find a used German P226 Stainless then upgrade parts. Then again, I'm a P228/9 snob.

                        EDIT: Look at that, P226 Navy (non-railed, pre-MK25) for $750. Just missed that one

                        P226 Navy
                        Last edited by code_blue; 10-28-2015, 4:22 PM.
                        Classifieds:

                        Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                        • #42
                          code_blue
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 3452

                          I just realized that the subdued controls are remarkably similar to the P224 controls, in fact I have a theory that they are from the P224.

                          I actually didn't like the P224 controls as much as the standard P series controls. I didn't have a problem with riding the slide stop like others do so subdued controls aren't needed for me.

                          I no longer have mine so I can't take a closeup shot for you all.



                          Last edited by code_blue; 10-28-2015, 10:59 PM.
                          Classifieds:

                          Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                          • #43
                            crosseyedshooter
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 658

                            Does anyone know where to send a standard P226 to get the trigger guard undercut like on the Legion? How much would that cost?

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                            • #44
                              tcmalibu
                              Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 164

                              Originally posted by Anthony S
                              I recently bought a Sig SP2022 9MM and its a great gun. I`m a new gun owner so I dont have a lot of experience with other guns to compare but I like it a lot and it was less than $500.
                              The Sp2022 is, IMO, the best buy you can make for a new pistol in CA. I bought mine for just over $400 delivered and it just flat out shoots great, right out of the box...good choice!

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                              • #45
                                QXSOUP
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 989

                                they are 224 controls.
                                WTB: Sig P245 or P220 Compact

                                STOP THE TUNNELS

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