Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Please help diagnose my Glock issues

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Doctor Suarez
    Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 245

    Please help diagnose my Glock issues

    Just took my brand new Glock 17 Gen 3 to the range today and had some issues. I am, however, going to assume that it is the Indian and not the arrow, if you take my meaning. Here are the facts:

    Gun: Glock 17 Gen 3, factory-new.

    Ammo: Federal Range-Target-Practice 9mm. I forget the bullet weight but a google image search of the product suggests it's 115 grn.

    Lube: I lubed the barrel and the rear of the trigger assembly but left the rails alone. They have the copper anti-seize stuff on them from the factory.

    Magazines: Two factory-new 10-round magazines, of the Gen4 variety, with the 2183 followers. Marked 1 and 2 for tracking purposes (a wise move as it turned out.)

    Grip: Two handed, thumbs up and forward

    Issues:

    -Reliable but noticeably weak ejection with both mags. I had no FTEs, but the ejection was incredibly weak compared to my other semi-automatic pistols, which kick the brass out hard enough to ricochet off the barricade and hit me. These barely flew a foot.

    -Magazine 2 functioned well, as noted above. Magazine 1 however had frequent failures to feed. In these cases, the round nosed upwards into the chamber with the rear still emerging from the magazine. This could not be solved with a rap to the rear of the slide. The mag had to be removed (not difficult) and the round dumped out.

    In this case, I had one FTF very early, then about 80 flawless rounds out of both mags. Then, on a whim, I got another 50 rounds, since my groups were tightening up. In this last 50, the problems began, all with Mag 1.

    I have never had limp wristing issues with my other pistols, but as they are a 1911, a .40, and a Glock 26, I think perhaps the issue might be related to the relatively weak rounds I'm shooting out of a full-sized gun.

    The nice gent in charge of the range suggested I disassemble Mag 1 and gently stretch the spring, which I did when I got home.

    Also of note: With the base grips, the gun feels like it's a bit lost in my hand. My hands are not thick and strong but I have fairly long fingers. On my 1911 and my XD I run Hogue rubber grips and am very happy with them. For $10 I will try it on the Glock 17 to see if it fills the hand a bit better.

    Rather than say "The Glock sucks!" I am assuming that the issue is with me. Does anyone have any advice on how to solve this? I will keep shooting the gun and try some more powerful rounds.
    Check me out on Instagram!
  • #2
    BoJackUSMC
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 7091

    You could always ask your friend or someone to video tape you while shooting so you can post the video as well.

    It could be the mag...

    Comment

    • #3
      db42
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 1574

      All brand new guns have a break in period. The round count is typically 250-500.

      Clean EVERYTHING - don't leave any factory grease on the gun - that's for storage not for function.

      Most likely there is nothing wrong with the gun, it just needs to be broken in. The mag may also just need some exercise before it works 100% proper.

      My 17 has no issues with 115gr target ammo.
      I use to be an anarchist but I quit that; there's too many rules.

      Comment

      • #4
        Doctor Suarez
        Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 245

        Thanks so far. I keep hearing to let the factory copper anti-seize work in the rails for as long as possible. "Shoot it until it's gone". The guy at the range is a Glock armorer and he said so as well.

        I think, given that the gun isn't going right to home-defense duty, I'll leave the copper stuff in there and just keep blasting, accepting that it might keep breaking in a bit.

        Still, would love to get more answers. What do you all think?
        Check me out on Instagram!

        Comment

        • #5
          Packy14
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 5312

          Clean shoot repeat
          NRA Lifetime Member

          1A-2A = -1A

          Comment

          • #6
            HkUSP45
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 645

            It could possibly be the target range ammo.

            Comment

            • #7
              tbc
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2011
              • 5955

              You said FTF and I am assuming that it was failure to feed. Together with weak ejection, the recoil spring in your new Glock is stiff and needs to be broken in. Here are my suggestions it soften the spring.

              1. Fully rack the slide every night. You can do this together with dry fire practice to work on your trigger press.
              2. Keep shooting it.
              3. Shoot it with hot ammo.






              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              Comment

              • #8
                sofbak
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2628

                Sounds like the feed lips on mag 1 maybe too wide, allowing the front end of the cartridge to "nose up" and not contact the feed ramp.

                If you have a caliper, measure width of openings clise to the front on both...
                Tire kickers gonna kick,
                Nose pickers gonna pick
                I and others know the real

                Comment

                • #9
                  Doctor Suarez
                  Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 245

                  All really good suggestions. I particularly like the "shoot more" prescription.

                  I will check the feed lips on Mag 1. I don't have calipers though. I assume Glock will do a make-good if it's out of shape from the jump. However, the weak ejection across both tells me that the recoil spring needs abusing theory is probably correct.
                  Check me out on Instagram!

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    sofbak
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2628

                    Most shooters I know (including myself) use " hotter" ammo for break in work, and save the target grade stuff for after the burnish/ polish break in. Usually 500 rounds or so.
                    Tire kickers gonna kick,
                    Nose pickers gonna pick
                    I and others know the real

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      static2126
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 5619

                      If you are in the san francisco bay area, pay my range fee and I can help you trouble shoot this.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        Ant45
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 970

                        I think it just needs breaking in. My G21sf had a few failure to feeds with one of the mags but the issue resolved itself after a few hundred rounds. Your Glock should be able to digest the most basic 115gr target rounds so I don't feel this is the issue.

                        Did you shoot the gen3 mags btw or just the gen 4's?

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          CaliDoc
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 593

                          Originally posted by tbc
                          You said FTF and I am assuming that it was failure to feed. Together with weak ejection, the recoil spring in your new Glock is stiff and needs to be broken in. Here are my suggestions it soften the spring.

                          1. Fully rack the slide every night. You can do this together with dry fire practice to work on your trigger press.
                          2. Keep shooting it.
                          3. Shoot it with hot ammo.






                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                          +1 for hot ammo. I did it early on. My 17 has eaten everything I have fed it after that. Then again, my mags were 17 rounders that I blocked before coming out to Cali. I have heard many bad things about the factory 10 rounders. Maybe get a few blocked ones off of calegalmags.com and see if that helps. I have noticed that feeding devices will be the the problem a vast majority of the time.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            Doctor Suarez
                            Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 245

                            Thanks for the offer, static. I'm in Marin and shoot at Bullseye in San Rafael. If the issues continue after a more extensive break-in I just may take you up on that.

                            I'm also having my 1911 cerakoted so that will need some breaking in as well. Lots of lead to send down range.
                            Check me out on Instagram!

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              Chapped Hide
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3901

                              Shoot 124gr loads, it will make a difference!
                              **** your feelings!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1