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  • acolytes
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 1914

    Recommendations please.

    Hey guys. The wife and I are in the market for a hand gun for her and we need some input. We will be going to the range so she can rent some hand guns to see which she likes best, and need some input before we waste our money and time on guns that we shouldn't even be considering in the first place. Here is the criteria. She insists on a semi auto. She likes the XD, Glock, and sig type of guns. The problem is she can't even rack the slide on my xd 45. It's new and the spring is still pretty stiff. I had a 9 mm a long time ago and the xd 45's slide takes a considerable amount of more energy to rack the slide. (I'm assuming it will soften up as I put rounds through it.) We thought about a p22, and sig mosquito because I think she would be able to rack the slide on those no problem. Shes only 5'3 and 105 pounds, but I would like for her to have something with more power though so she can have something for self defense when I'm not home. If she was at home by herself and had to turn to my xd in a situation, she's screwed since she can't even rack the slide on it. Any recommendations? I thought about something in the lines of a sub compact, but I think because of the shorter barrel there would be more muzzle jump. My main concern is a semi auto type that isn't a pain the rack the slide on. Thanks for reading guy and for any input.
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  • #2
    Vacaville
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 4360

    Don't know about a semi-auto that has an easy slide to rack. Your concerns would be covered nicely by a good revolver though, even though it may not seem as "cool".

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    • #3
      movie zombie
      Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jul 2007
      • 14644

      women like revolvers. we like them because they are sexy, easy to operate, and easy to clean. don't rent the airweights though. i shoot a smith and wesson model 60 snubbie which is stainless and love her to death. of course, i have many other smiths in the stabe also.

      movie zombie
      "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
      Originally posted by The Shootist
      Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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      • #4
        CHS
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 11338

        My GF is about the same size and can rack the slide just fine on her Kimber Custom II 1911, and it's even stiffer than mine is. Then again, mine's 6 years old and has about 5000 rounds through it. The spring is a little softer than factory. heh.
        Please read the Calguns Wiki
        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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        • #5
          goathead
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 3601

          Going to the range is an excellent idea as far as finding out what she feels most comfortable firing. As for the slides, while some might just be too much for her others she should be able to with lots of practice. I have a Ruger P95 that I can rack easily; but it did take lots of practice getting comfortable with it, learning what kind of grip works best for me and just practice, practice, practice. Good luck.

          (ddiaz's wife)

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          • #6
            CHS
            Moderator Emeritus
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 11338

            Originally posted by movie zombie
            women like revolvers. we like them because they are sexy, easy to operate, and easy to clean. don't rent the airweights though. i shoot a smith and wesson model 60 snubbie which is stainless and love her to death. of course, i have many other smiths in the stabe also.
            Men like revolvers too

            But yes, revolvers ROCK. DO NOT discount them.

            The airweights are just plain dumb. Not fun to shoot. Try a full-size revolver made from steel from either S&W or Ruger in .38/.357. If she's adventurous she'll get tired of shooting .38's out of it pretty quickly and will want a little more "oomph". Once she's shot a few .357's she'll probably be hooked
            Please read the Calguns Wiki
            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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            • #7
              dwtt
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 7470

              I think a Smith and Wesson M&P 9 might suit her. I am guessing here that part of the problem with your wife being able to rack the slide may be in getting a solid grip on the gun with the off-hand. I've found the M&P slide easy to grip. Anyway, as for caliber, I have read others say shot placement plays a big part in stopping a bad guy and I support this view. A 9mm in the heart will be more effective than a .45 in the foot.

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              • #8
                badreligion
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 538

                Have you thought about seeing if some of the ranges around you do any of the following?

                Ladies only shooting times?
                Ladies shooting classes?
                First timers shooting classes?

                Don't take her to the range with the idea that you are gonna walk out the door with a date and time to come back in 10 days to pick up her new gun. Go shoot a few guns that feel comfortable in her hands and have fun. Go back a few times, rent different guns and have fun. She will find a gun she likes to shoot and feels comforable with. Then you know what to get her. Go to a gun store and look at a new one. Make sure she can pull the slide and chamber a snap cap on a new gun etc.

                I recommend everyone own a .22 rifle and pistol. You can have fun and practice shooting, techniques and anything else much cheaper than shooting almost anything else. And at home defence distances 11 rounds of 22 will kill.
                Some people will do skanky things for $25, and not all those people are crack whores.

                Bill Wiese
                San Jose, CA

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                • #9
                  shoupdawg
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2362

                  My gf is also petite, at just 5'0''. She can handle my sig 220 and p6 just fine as well my buddy's heavy, stainless steel 229 in .40 cal. She prefers the p6 (9mm) the best. Since these are german trade ins, it appears that they maybe loosened up already? And for the price it's tough to beat.

                  If you and the gf would like to trek up to Angeles, the gf and I can let you try out the guns. Cheers.
                  Last edited by shoupdawg; 12-03-2008, 10:13 PM.
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                  • #10
                    M. D. Van Norman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 4168

                    If she can cock the hammer first, that will make the slide a little bit easier to work.
                    Matthew D. Van Norman
                    Dancing Giant Sales | Licensed Firearms Dealer | Rainier, WA

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                    • #11
                      SanSacto
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 2205

                      Get the .44 Eagle, then the .357 Eagle barrell for her. Haha I just like saying ".357 Eagle"!

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                      • #12
                        wildhawker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14150

                        My wife recently went through a number of range rents and demos, finally deciding on a P226 (the P229 was also considered (runner-up), as were the Browning Hi Power, HK P2000 & USP, S&W MP9 and a Kahr- she doesn't like Glocks); the ergonomics and controls works for her, and she likes the DA/SA action.

                        At the end of the day, let her shoot all of them and she'll gravitate to what fits and works for her.
                        Brandon Combs

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                        My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          jlh95811
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2833

                          The M&P slide is a little bit easier to rack than an XD. I own both.

                          But best bet in my opinion is a metal framed gun. They are all much easier to rack the slide than a polymer framed pistol with the exception of tightly fit 1911 like the Les Baer. No way she could rack that one. It's a PITA.

                          Sig P6 is a very good option in 9mm but I HIGHLY suggest a bigger caliber. It is true that shot placement matters but it is also true that the first shot is CRUCIAL. If you get a .45 in the torso you are going to stop. Period. Of course a shotgun is always the best thing for home defense but if it must be a handgun I suggest something with good stopping power. A 9mm is just going to piss the guy off.

                          I was shot with a Glock 19(9mm) by a gang member who tried to rob me at point blank range(2 feet from muzzle to my body) 4 times in my abdomen and I didn't even fall down. Trust me it is just not effective. I tackled the guy and held him until police came.

                          It is well known that in a defensive situation aiming properly is VERY hard to do. Adreneline is pumping and you are most likely scared beyond any reasonable thought process. That being said a pistol with a rail is optimal as is mounting a laser/taclight combo on that rail. Point and shoot. Eliminate the threat. You don't want him standing back up or even worse not going down at all.

                          As movie zombie eluded to, revolvers are great. For instance a double action .357 magnum will have the stopping power needed to drop an intruder. At the same time you will be able to shoot .38 special out of it as well. This allows for cheaper practice ammo with a lighter load which equals more fun and practice makes nearly perfect. Revolvers are available in many sizes as well. If she will not be carrying it I suggest a 4" barell.
                          "people shouldnt be bumping sold stuff. but it is hard to herd cats." - rkt88edmo

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                          • #14
                            randy
                            In Memoriam
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 4642

                            I have a student that is 5' tall and weighs maybe 100 pounds. She has small hands and wasn't/isn't strong. Very petite.

                            The easiest semi for her to rack the slide, shoot handle was a CZ75. She now shoots others but the CZ was the first semi she could handle. Good ergonomics, good price.

                            Another firearm she likes and can deal with is the Smith&Wesson M&P in 9mm.

                            You don't want your wife to handle the gun she shoots regularly.
                            I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                            When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                            • #15
                              jlh95811
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2833

                              Originally posted by randy
                              I have a student that is 5' tall and weighs maybe 100 pounds. She has small hands and wasn't/isn't strong. Very petite.

                              The easiest semi for her to rack the slide, shoot handle was a CZ75. She now shoots others but the CZ was the first semi she could handle. Good ergonomics, good price.

                              Another firearm she likes and can deal with is the Smith&Wesson M&P in 9mm.

                              You don't want your wife to handle the gun she shoots regularly.
                              huh?
                              "people shouldnt be bumping sold stuff. but it is hard to herd cats." - rkt88edmo

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